Luigi,
It's good to hear that you are doing so well; obviously the way you are using the 6C EM+ is VERY effective.
There appear to be some common misconceptions around the concepts of 'power' versus 'effectiveness' that another researcher brought to my attention, so it may be time to try to shed some light upon this common myth: that "more power equals more effectiveness". In many cases, the opposite is actually being found to be true.
The 6C EM+ actually may have quite a bit more 'power' than what needs to be employed to produce optimum body response in many situations; for exanmple, using a modest percentage of it's output power capability at the "300" power level setting is repeatedly being reported to produce the maximum positive response, while also producing the minimum of adverse collateral reactions.
On the 6C EM+, you can take a TriField meter in hand and back away from a single Resonant Plasma tube about 8 feet before the E-field reading drops from being pegged off-scale, down to the 100,000 volts per meter E-field density reading when the "Power Output Level" setting is set at the "300" level. With the output power set up to the maximum "1220" setting, you need to back away about ten feet (or more) from the Resonant Plasma tube before the Trifield meter's reading drops to that same 100,000 volts per meter E-field density reading. That's a lot of power in the E-field. Being within 8 feet of the tube, even at this modest Output Power Level setting, continuously produces results for users of the EM+ systems.
But the E-field reading is only a simple 'energy field density' reading, and it does not offer any 'qualitative' information about the characteristics of the resonance being set up within, and radiated from, the plasma tube (/tubes). When run at the higher 1220 setting, there is more of a secondary 'ringing' / damped wave resonance present in the radiated waveforms from the plasma. While this may be acceptable and usable in many situations for many research subjects, there may also be many research subjects who will in fact respond more positively to the 'cleaner' plasma resonance that results when the power level is controlled and the plasma resonance characteristics are optimized at intermediate power levels.
Research subjects using the EM+ systems at the 300 Power Output Level setting report dramatic results with a minimum of collateral reaction that are otherwise experienced when a higher power output level is selected. (Many times the 'collateral adverse reactions' experienced from exposure to a plasma system with too much input power, resulting in variations and uncontrolled plasma resonance characteristics, are being misinterpreted as 'healing reactions', and people are even being told that they are a 'good sign'.... even though while they feel like crap for days after an exposure, their condition remains relatively unchanged for prolonged periods.... (What's wrong with this picture?)
So maybe this often-repeated misconception that "more power is better" needs to be very closely examined once more.
The body may in fact respond optimally within certain 'power windows', or more properly 'windows of receptivity'. While the body is known to be responsive to extremely subtle resonance influences (as evidenced by the results repeatedly produced by the ABPA devices in use by Dr. Jeff Sutherland and many others), it is also known to go into a 'resistive' or self-protective made when exposed to adverse fields or energy levels; EAV testing and various forms of body response testing illustrates this beyond question.
So yes, in many cases, 'more is less'... more power is paridoxically less effective... an interesting delima for those who are marketing from the standpoint that "More MUST be better!??). And the often repeated clamor of "MORE POWER - MORE POWER - MORE POWER!" may have misled many well-meaning researchers, or individuals fighting their health challenges, looking for help and hope...
Extensive reports on this subject, arising out of research done over the last year, are being prepared, which should offer further insight. Until these reports are completed, I'd suggest that those who are interested might do well to utilize whatever body response testing systems they may have available to them in order to investigate this subject further.
I wish each of you the best of progress and insights in your research!
Be Well!!
Bruce
03-24-2006 message by N
I'm not so sure that I can agree completely with the "bad targeting" idea. Of course, not being remotely close to the
frequency/frequencies needed for a specific purpose will prove ineffective, but that is not my point. It had been demonstrated over and over again by individual researchers that in most cases, you can be off the "perfect" frequency slightly and still have the effectiveness.
Divisional convergence harmonics is not the answer by my records in working with numerous conditions. Subtle sweeps around the target frequency have proven far more effective in my records - so much that I do not even use converges of any type, period.
I think a large part of effectiveness & results is something that almost NO manufacturer will speak of, but is a topic that speaks volumes...Effective plasma resonance.
I'm in complete agreement that more power does not give better results. But by that statement and agreement, why is the "TrueRife" device touting the high energy output so strongly? That just seems like a contradiction. Plasma Dynamics is a far more important issue - one that Mr. Stenulson hit upon in December of '97 when he departed profoundly from all of the "in the box" thinking. Nobody still has been able to duplicate what that wonderful knob does.
In either case, if imitation is the highest form of flattery, Bruce Stenulson has received more flattery than any other creator of devices. Not only do I respect the man for his incredible knowledge in electronics and engineering in regard to these devices, but also to his integrity to abide by the wishes of the late R.R.R. and not use the Rife name to gain a foothold in marketing. But he doesn't need to, anyway. His record speaks volumes for itself and hundreds of researchers and users have only added to the credibility.
But back to my point, I haven't spoken with anyone who has the knowledge to intelligently speak of the importance of plasma dynamics and how it interacts with the body other than Mr. Stenulson. It is so much more than getting a tube to light up. I really wish that the creators of the various plasma devices would all get in on a discussion about this, but I feel that is something that will just not come about.
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Hi N
I can say Bruce's frequencies for stimulating and normalizing body functions has received a lot of use and the frequencies well appear to do what is claimed.
I believe Bruce uses one coil in his system, which is a great indication that we don't have to blast away to achieve results.
Ken U., Australia
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Yes, Bruce's stimulating and normalizing frequencies are wonderful. I have a few written testimonies on their effectiveness. The sad part about those wonderful numbers is that they have been taken from Bruce's site and re-distributed by TrueRife without permission, nor had any credit been given. The same holds true for work by Jeff Sutherland.
I think one pic that is better than the six plasma tubes (driven by three EM+ machines) is the pic showing NINE tubes all lit by one single EM+ device! I haven't seen another instrument out there with SO much power...because none exist. :-)
(N)
FEELING FREQUENCY "HITS"
On 3-27-2006 LEE wrote:
" How the heck does one know if a "hit", which I assume makes you feel a herx [read 'unpleasant';] is truly killing a parasite or should be avoided because it is bad for you? I seriously feel ill instantly when I hear heavy metal music for even seconds. Does this mean I should listen to it for my health? I am not being a smartass, I would really like to hear responses. Where did this prominent idea of following 'hits' arise? lee"
MW Response:
Usually the feeling of a "hit" has most commonly been associated with one of the following: goose bumps, watering eyes, slight muscle spasm/twitches, sinus clearing - runny nose, prickles in scalp, churning stomach, feet and hands get twitchy - like a nervousness, breathing rate change. (either way), quickening of the pulse, biofeedback temperature drops, a group of muscles going soft or strong, nerve pathways (deep in tissue usually) tingle, noise in ears alters (can go loud or soft), low level pain in joints increase then falls away quickly, a random tingle in the body (may be the site of pathogen or tumor), a feeling of warmth in the tissue or sweating.
You usually won't feel a Herx off of getting a hit unless perhaps you ran that freq for a long time. With the people I work with, I run scans to search for hits, staying only 20-30 seconds on each frequency. Plus, in a given day I'll only run a range of 100Hz as well, scanning at a simple .5Hz increment.
What normally happens is that you'll end up with a list of hits and if you look them up on a cross-reference CAFL they will usually be centered around something which you can then go after. I've never seen anyone feel seriously ill on a hit personally, but have read of it. Not sure exactly where or when the idea came about, either.
Hope this is of some help.
message from 03-27-2006
Help! Horrible migraine herxs
gloria_s wrote:
>> I recently started treatment for Lyme with an EMEM5, and for the third time I got horrific
>> migraines as a herx. Migraines that are 100 times worse than usual, where my head is
>> about to explode. I can't lie down, because the pressure hurts too much. And it takes a
>> ton of pain and migraine meds to even begin to alleviate it. How do I avoid this next
>> time?? I do lots of coffee enemas and other cleansing (colon, liver, GB, etc.). I do ozone
>> insufflations and drink ozonated water. Help! What can I do? It feels like I need to do
>> something to specificially address the neurotoxins in the brain, but how? It feels like
>> someone blew my head up like a balloon. Thank you for any suggestions.
>>
>> Gloria
Gloria &; friends,
People with Lyme disease also commonly have, or very easily and quickly can develop severe reactions to chemical and
electromagnetic pollution from a wide variety of sources. Our living environments today are already saturated with
electromagnetic pollution, which has the effect of being a cumulative health stressor factor; adding a bit more of the
wrong thing can then be "The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back".
For some excellent information on the ever-pervasive "Electromagnetic Pollution" that can permeate the
environment in which you live, and for reasonable costing solutions that people are implementing, visit:
http://www.electromagneticpollution.com
Unfortunately, when you actually understand how much of a health stressor factor and destabilizing influence this
electromagnetic noise and pollution can be for people already facing health challenges, you also begin to develop
an insight as to how some of the operational aspects of equipment being offered to researchers today can in fact
have devastating effects on the unknowing experimenters who might use it, hoping to regain their health.
For some people attempting to use some of the equipment being advocated on this list & others, it can be very
damaging, and can rapidly lead to worsening environmental sensitivities, as well as resulting in substantially reduced
resistance to other stressor factors already present in their living environment.
If you run a frequency sequence, and a day or two later you notice a slight aching in your kidneys, you might
realistically interpret it as giving them more of a job to do. If you run frequencies effectively for certain parasites,
and you experience a loosening of your stools or even diahrea soon thereafter, and find any of the parasites in
the stools upon examination, then you can interpret that as a result of effectively using the right resonances to
produce those results.
But if being near a device produces brain fog, severe headaches, or migraines quickly, you need to also be aware
that Electrosensitivity reactions alone can produce these problems.
While it is said that the Boriella will spew out some toxins when threatened / challenged, which can make you feel bad,
consider carefully that the headaches, brain fog, and other severe adverse reactions may possibly have little or nothing to do with actually killing off unwanted microorganisms in any effective manner. And also consider that making yourself
feel really crappy week after week with experimental equipment may NOT be any reliable indication that you are
making any progress in actually eliminating the microorganisms that you think you are targeting.
(Oh, yes, I'm aware that from the viewpoint of the advocates of some experimental approaches, this is bordering on
unspeakable heresy ... but every now and then, serving up a substantial helping of 'roasted sacred cow' may be just
what's really needed to keep the open discussion of this research healthy... :>)
[The image of three monkeys sitting on a log, with the first one covering it's eyes, the second one covering it's ears,
and the third one covering it's mouth, with the caption "See No Evil, "Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil", should never be
considered as an appropriate header logo for any forum such as this. It certainly does not serve the interests of
hopeful individuals who are trying to deal with serious health challenges, who need ALL of the facts... not just the
ones that seem to 'Tell A Good Story' from some individual's viewpoint.... ]
So to return to the point where I started: everyone needs to keep in mind that many 'adverse reactions may really have
little or no relationship to "herx" reactions, but are better understood to be "Adverse Reactions", or "Adverse
Collateral Reactions"- they are your body's reaction to let you know of it's inability to tolerate the destabilizing
effects of either environmental pollution in various forms, or aspects of certain equipment's emanations.
A web page that's been up on my web site for many years, cautioning experimenters to such hazards, is here:
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
I began trying to educate people about this aspect of the design and operation of experimental Resonant Radiant Plasma
frequency research equipment back in 1997 and 1998. I bought an H.P. RF Spectrum Analyzer (kinda pricey!) to
pursue the research in greater depth, because I needed to know what aspects of Resonant Radiant Plasma system
operation was capable of aggravating my own extensive Electro-Sensitivity.
I had serious health challenges, and while the high frequency adjustable contact pad devices had been helpful
with some aspects, I was still gradually losing ground until I began development of the Plasma Resonance systems. I
wanted - on, I really NEEDED to develop my own understanding of how Optimum Plasma Resonance could actually be achieved, while minimizing or eliminating the operational aspects which were responsible for my own rapid adverse reactions: as when spark gaps were used, or when plasma drive voltage or power levels exceeded the body's 'optimum response window'. I was my own best 'Guinea Pig', and I tested everything thoroughly on myself before I ever released it to other researchers...
The fans of certain 'sacred cows' were not necessarily receptive then, and that aspect of this field of research
has not changed much in that respect... it's the aspect of these discussion groups that leaves most leading edge
researchers working independently & quietly, while rarely if ever posting the results of their work. Here's the text of a recent message I sent out:
If I may be so bold as to sum up from Bruce what I had suspected before his excellent email on Monday,
"Hits" may be herxes and they may be reactions to something that is not good for you.
This corresponds to my only [but major] criticism of Brian's book- YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HERX TO GET WELL.
Rife's patients did not herx. Neenah Silver agrees that you do not have to herx. Jeff Garth, maker of the GB4000 agrees that you do not have to herx. Yet this myth persists and persists, based mainly on Brian's assertions. Brian, please give us the evidence that supports this claim that has led countless rifers to hammer at themselves until they feel terrible so they will feel ok about their treatments.
I realize that challenging this myth leaves us all a lot more vulnerable to our personal doubts about the efficacy of our machines and even beloved R.R.R. Himself. But if we are to ever be a successful revolution, and I have faith that we will, we have to be standing on solid ground.
It makes me wish I had an F-Scan or a Morra machine to find correct freqs, but I remain unconvinced about F-scans until I hear from several people who have run sweeps on themselves back to back for an hour and gotten the same readout each time. I know you can say that the freqs change that fast but that makes me even more incredulous. Is there anyone out there that has paid the thousands of dollars for an F-scan who has the guts to try this for the unbelievers like me? You have a chance to make a convert out of me....lee
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On 3/29/06 9:24 AM, "Troy C." wrote:
Lee, from my understanding Rife did warn of herx effects. All that I know is that after a good session of rifing I always herx and I always feel better after I have proceeded through the herx. For instance if someone would take grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano or some other pathogenic killer for a week or so, at some point they will experience die off and tiredness. I believe that this is unavoidable as the liver, kidneys, lungs, skin etc.. have to eliminate toxins and are temporarily over burdened. I have not only tested this on myself but on countless friends that have either rifed or done some type of detox program. They also always have relief when the herx passes as well. This is just my two cents, but I have been at this stuff for over 20 years. Troy
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Troy My Friend, I am not denying what you are saying in the least. I would certainly warn any potential rife user of Herxes as well. I am not denying their reality in the least. I hope that you are not denying my and my friend's reality either. George started rifing a year ago and at the time was so crippled from lymes that on some days he could not walk or get out of bed and had terrific knee pain. He started rifing daily with a BCX unit and just started rapidly and continually improving. Today, at 65, he has the energy of a teenager, is building his dream house and his biggest complaint is that he is so busy that he has little time to rife. If you ask him about herxes he has to search around for an answer because basically, he has never herxed at all. Are you going to tell him then that he has not really killed any spirochetes? He would laugh like crazy if you did. I have had very mild herxes, a tightening in my kidneys, some slight feeling in my liver, an occasional mild headache. My wife has had one emotional herx in the beginning. My arthritic elbows have stopped pain, my knees are 20 years younger, I feel great now.
Jeff Garth swears that by his research, Rife's cancer patients, who were so far gone that they brought them in by ambulance, had basically no herxes at all; did not hardly notice anything except that they were getting well.
The only reason I go on and on about this is that one of the more common distress signals we get on this forum [besides"help! I am having a herx from hell!] is " I just bought this $1000 to $5000 machine and I'm not feeling terrible from it! What have I done wrong?" I think it is irresponsible to NOT tell people about potential herxes. I also think it is just a irresponsible to say that you MUST feel awful with a herx or you are not going to get well. I don't need scientific research to know that George's and my experiences {our healing} are real. But for all the even newer newbies than George and I , this news needs to be heard.
Troy, I bow to your years of rifing and your knowledge, and thank you for an honest response. lee
"If you're having great success with the RF turned on, definitely don't switch your protocol on the words of one researcher. In short, when using a GB on myself and others, a large percentage were developing what could only be best described as "stress effects" from the treatments which completely went away after the carrier was disabled. The effectiveness of the GB remained the same. It may be something you might want to try just for grins - or maybe not. Also, the book "Cross Currents" by Robert O. Becker is a great read and gets way more into detail than I possibly could on here."
Friends,
[Much of this was previously discussed over the last 8-1/2 years on the various Rife lists, starting back when Gary Hawkins owned & ran the first Rife-List on Eskimo.com. Hopefully I can reiterate a few points that will help all of those who were not around when much of this foundational material was first presented to approach this subject from a broader perspective. ]
BG wrote:
> The EMEM machines aren't designed with a default carrier wave but
> according to D J (one of the more experienced engineers
> on the Rife lists) there is a carrier, which he has verified at about 1MHz.
It may be time to clarify this; unless Dave had an RF Spectrum analyzer, he may have been unaware of the complete nature of the spark gap generated signal. Yes, he could have detected one of the segments around 1 MHz, so I do not question that aspect of the observation he reported to you.
Actually, if a classic EMEM-2 with spark gap is built, there's nothing that looks like a "single 'carrier' at 1 MHZ"; it's simply not that 'clean and it's grossly uncontrolled. Instead, there is wide spectrum chaotic noise spread all the way up through the EM / RF spectrum- it's more like getting bathed in hundreds or thousands of RF signals simultaneously.
But my background with a specialization in "Electronic Warfare Operations" while in the military in the early 1970s made me very uneasy about what I was observing when doing early testing on the spark gap approach. I had undergone specialized training in 1970 on the subject of 'Antennas and Radio Wave Propagation', along with a lot of other classified material. I worked for several years in this field, doing work that was classified Top Secret, Crypto; much of it may still be classified today, so I have not mentioned much of this in the past, and will not now. But it placed me in an 'interesting' and possibly rather unique perspective as to the nature and uses of RF, as well as potential hazzards.
When I was first investigating the claims about the 'benefits" of, and 'need' for a spark gap in the EMEM-2 back in 1997 and 1998, some of the things that were being claimed did not make sense from the perspective of this background. After close to nine years of further research and development, those claims make even less sense to me today.
When I set up the tests, I could hear these spark gap generated noise signals in multiple places on several radio receivers. Including on both the AM & FM radio transmission bands. But my background in Electronic Warfare Operations made me very uneasy about what I was observing. So I bought an H.P. RF Spectrum Analyzer - equipment I had previously worked with but not needed since leaving the military- in order to really see what was going on... and I was quite uncomfortable about what I was seeing.
>BG This may explain, at least in part, why the energy from EMEMs penetrate so well.
OH, yes, RF signals can penetrate; the Russians used their understanding of these principles back during the cold war to constantly bombard the listening post personnel in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow with RF - RF which they knew would be damaging to the personnel spying on them. If you research this, you will find that an incredibly high percentage of those U.S. listening post personnel came down with major health problems and an incredibly high incidence of cancers... and at the time, The U.S. personnel were so far behind the Russians in understanding this aspect of the research on biological effects of RF, that they did not even recognize the hazzards of the signals with which they were being intentionally bombarded... they simply had no knowledge of or training in this aspect of RF usage. It wasn't until after the collapse of the Soviet Union that this became known, and I expect that some aspects of that type of "Electronic Warfare" were never disclosed...
Stetzer and Graham have provided extensive information on how the Electrical Pollution that permeates our living and working environments today has an insidious and continuous stressor effect on our health; if you have not already done so, you really need to expand your perspective with the information that is available at:
http://www.electricalpollution.com/
Plasma Resonance, if properly generated and optimized, simply DOES NOT NEED an RF carrier in order to penetrate or reach out...In fact, extensive testing by many researchers using the EM+ systems way back in 1999 and 2000 demonstrate that the opposite is true... that on a dynamic resonant radiant plasma system, adding a spark-gap-generated broad spectrum chaotic noise signal was observed to REDUCE effectiveness, slow research subject response, and result in far more intense 'adverse collateral reactions' (commonly also mistakenly referred to as 'herx' reactions.) I've already previously offered information on individuals who's challenged health state was substantially worsened by exposures to machines with spark gaps; I keep receiving reports that this is still ongoing today. Many still fail to write up reports of their adverse experiences, however, so most casual researchers remain unaware of how widespread these adverse reactions might really be.
So from my perspective, statements that RF is 'necessary' reveal a simple lack of understanding of the nature of the magnetic component of the Resonant Radiant Plasma Dynamics. I posted information on these research observations many times over the last 8-1/2 years, so it should not come as news to those who have been around.
And the really sad aspect is that, if an RF carrier might want to be employed in order to test the body response to it's presence, the extremely chaotic uncontrolled noise signal which a crude spark gap generates should be the last type of signal to which a cautious researcher would want to expose themselves. Body response testing techniques (kinesiology, EAV, etc.) can be used to best evaluate how subjects are affected- hopefully this is done long before a deteriorating electro-sensitivity condition becomes obvious. Because once an advanced electro-sensitivity reaction of the body is obvious, the body's energetic system may have become so sensitized and it's previous resistance and resilience so compromised that it may take many months - or even years- to recover to the point where they can resume leading something approaching a 'normal life'. For further insight, you might want to read Bill McCallum's report on the Electro-Sensitivity discussion page on The Alternative Health Approaches Forum:
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
Jeff Garff offers a low amplitude level 2.4 MHz carrier on his GB4000 contact pad machine, and was insightful enough to also include a switch so that researchers can easily shut it off completely- [much as I did when I added the bypass switch to the adjustable spark gaps which were still built in, and available to researchers for testing in the early EMEM2+ and EMEM3+ systems back in 1998 and early 1999.]
Neuromancer has offered the results of his extensive work with a wide spectrum of research subjects while working with the GB4000, and has reported that virtually all of them responded better when the 2.4 MHz carrier was disabled / shut off. This is further food for thought, which should provoke interested researchers to pursue this line of investigation further.
Jeff Sutherland has shared his techniques for programming the F125 or F165 to generate what he refers to as 'scalar harmonics'; this is a 'background frequency' which is mathematically derived form the primary frequency, is run simultaneously to enhance the body's receptiveness to the primary frequencies being sequenced in a given session. On the F165, two scalar harmonics can be programmed; (on the F125, only one scalar harmonic can be programmed.)
The unique aspect of this approach is that the 'background frequency / scalar harmonic' continuously changes at the primary frequency changes, to maintain it's scalar harmonic relationship to the primary frequency, and thereby insure that it is supportive, rather than possibly acting as a disruptive aspect. When such programs are input into the 6C EM+ system which he uses in some of his work, he reports that this combined primary and dual scalar resonances are induced into research subjects very effectively. Dr. Sutherland recommends the F165 for this reason over the F125.
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[It's curious, however, that we have also been told by makers and advocates of the classic EMEM-2 on more than one recent occasion that those systems and their derivatives which have been built by various researchers are found to become 'ineffective' when the spark gap becomes fouled and their radiated RF chaos noise signal ceases to be broadcast... the tube is still lighting up, but the system is 'ineffective'.... so from these reports we also know that it's possible that 'the light is on, but nobody's home'... very curious indeed...]
Back in the late 1990s, while in the process of studying the characteristics and dispersion patterns of RF noise signals radiating from the spark gap, using equipment including the H.P. RF Spectrum Analyzer which I bought at that time - (special equipment which I had not expected to use again after leaving my position as an "Electronics Warfare Specialist" for the military back in the early 1970s) I learned several interesting and troubling things.
One of the most troubling that came to light during this research was that the spark gap generated signal was cleaner andless chaotic / less noisy, and that the primary drive frequency could actually be heard as modulation on my various radio receivers across the spectrum, ONLY when the spark gap was barely open. As I opened the specially calibrated adjustable spark gap which I was using in my research wider, the broad spectrum noise became progressively 'dirtier' and dominant- the majority of the high voltage energy was going into the chaotic noise signal portions... The result? The pure clean tone of the plasma resonance (which was present when the spark gap was closed) had virtually disappeared, overwhelmed in all of this chaotic noise.... For all practical purposes, the primary frequency was not even there once the spark gap was opened too far.
I was curious about the disappearance of the primary frequency, so I investigated this further, and found that with the spark gap firing beyond a minimal opening, the unprotected / unshielded electronic circuit of the EMEM-2 design was directly receiving so much EM/RF interference from the spark gap that it could not even generate the correct signal... The circuit's function was disrupted, the primary frequency was obliterated, and nothing but the broad spectrum chaotic noise signal remained....
Despite all of the advances in the collective understandings of leading edge researchers, resulting in the virtual re-writing of the paradigms being implemented on the leading edge of induced resonance research, there's still a lot of people that are repeating 1995 ideas as if they were 'sacred cows'...
Expectations can be a subtle but effective trap to let yourself slip into; until you observe the higher harmonics which they generate within the body, much of the picture is simply missing.
It's actually now becoming even more obvious- that not all systems which can light up a plasma tube are the same... and I've already recently pointed out that in terms of 'body response' and 'effectiveness', Quality, not Quantity may be the key to optimum results with the minimum of adverse collateral reactions. That's where the title of this thread started, after all.
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Here's the content of a recent discussion:
Gloria wrote:
> I recently started treatment for Lyme with an EMEM5, and for the third time I got horrific migraines as a herx. Migraines that are 100 times worse than usual, where my head is about to explode. I can't lie down, because the pressure hurts too much. And it takes a ton of pain and migraine meds to even begin to alleviate it. How do I avoid this next time?? I do lots of coffee enemas and other cleansing (colon, liver, GB, etc.). I do ozone insufflations and drink ozonated water. Help! What can I do? It feels like I need to do something to specificially address the neurotoxins in the brain, but how? It feels like someone blew my head up like a balloon. Thank you for any suggestions.
>
> Gloria
Gloria &; friends,
People with Lyme disease also commonly have, or very easily and quickly can develop severe reactions to chemical and electromagnetic pollution from a wide variety of sources. Our living environments today are already saturated with electromagnetic pollution, which has the effect of being a cumulative health stressor factor; adding a bit more of the wrong thing can then be "The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back".
For some excellent information on the ever-pervasive "Electromagnetic Pollution" that can permeate the environment in which you live, and for reasonable costing solutions that people are implementing, visit:
http://www.electromagneticpollution.com
Unfortunately, when you actually understand how much of a health stressor factor and destabilizing influence this electromagnetic noise and pollution can be for people already facing health challenges, you also begin to develop an insight as to how some of the operational aspects of equipment being offered to researchers today can in fact have devastating effects on the unknowing experimenters who might use it, hoping to regain their health.
For some people attempting to use some of the equipment being advocated on this list & others, it can be very damaging, and can rapidly lead to worsening environmental sensitivities, as well as resulting in substantially reduced resistance to other stressor factors already present in their living environment.
If you run a frequency sequence, and a day or two later you notice a slight aching in your kidneys, you might realisticly interpret it as giving them more of a job to do. If you run frequencies effectively for certain parasites, and you experience a loosening of your stools or even diahrea soon thereafter, and find any of the parasites in the stools upon examination, then you can interpret that as a result of affectively using the right resonances to produce those results.
But if being near a device produces brain fog, severe headaches, or migraines quickly, you need to also be aware that Electrosensitivity reactions alone can produce these problems.
While it is said that the Boriella will spew out some toxins when threatened / challenged, which can make you feel bad, consider carefully that the headaches, brain fog, and other severe adverse reactions may possibly have little or nothing to do with actually killing off unwanted microorganisms in any effective manner. And also consider that making yourself feel really crappy week after week with experimental equipment may NOT be any reliable indication that you are making any progress in actually eliminating the microorganisms that you think you are targeting.
(Oh, yes, I'm aware that from the viewpoint of the advocates of some experimental approaches, this is bordering on unspeakable heresy ... but every now and then, serving up a substantial helping of 'roasted sacred cow' may be just what's really needed to keep the open discussion of this research healthy... :>)
[The image of three monkeys sitting on a log, with the first one covering it's eyes, the second one covering it's ears, and the third one covering it's mouth, with the caption "See No Evil, "Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil", should never be considered as an appropriate header logo for any forum such as this. It certainly does not serve the interests of hopeful individuals who are trying to deal with serious health challenges, who need ALL of the facts... not just the ones that seem to 'Tell A Good Story' from some individual's viewpoint.... ]
So to return to the point where I started: everyone needs to keep in mind that many 'adverse reactions may really have little or no relationship to "herx" reactions, but are better understood to be "Adverse Reactions", or "Adverse Collateral Reactions"- they are your body's reaction to let you know of it's inability to tolerate the destabilizing effects of either environmental pollution in various forms, or aspects of certain equipment's eminations.
A web page that's been up on my web site for many years, cautioning experimenters to such hazards, is here:
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
I began trying to educate people about this aspect of the design and operation of experimental Resonant Radiant Plasma frequency research equipment back in 1997 and 1998. I bought an H.P. RF Spectrum Analyzer (kinda pricey!) to pursue the research in greater depth, because I needed to know what aspects of Resonant Radiant Plasma system operation was capable of aggravating my own extensive Electro-Sensitivity.
I had serious health challenges, and while the high frequency adjustable contact pad devices had been helpful with some aspects, I was still gradually loosing ground until I began development of the Plasma Resonance systems. I wanted - on, I really NEEDED to develop my own understanding of how Optimum Plasma Resonance could actually be achieved, while minimizing or eliminating the operational aspects which were responsible for my own rapid adverse reactions: as when spark gaps were used, or when plasma drive voltage or power levels exceeded the body's 'optimum response window'. I was my own best 'Guinea Pig', and I tested everything thoroughly on myself before I ever released it to other researchers...
The fans of certain 'sacred cows' were not necessarily receptive then, and that aspect of this field of research has not changed much in that respect... it's the aspect of these discussion groups that leaves most leading edge researchers working independently & quietly, while rarely if ever posting the results of their work.
Here's the text of a recent message which I wrote:
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[Rife] machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may be the key
Luigi wrote:
>> The only one I know that might have that info about my EM+ is Bruce Stenulson so perhaps I should ask him, but I am doing well enough that I figure it's not really worth wasting his time.
>> Luigi
[My Response:]
Luigi,
It's good to hear that you are doing so well; obviously the way you are using the 6C EM+ is VERY effective.
There appear to be some common misconceptions around the concepts of 'power' versus 'effectiveness' that another researcher brought to my attention, so it may be time to try to shed some light upon this common myth: that "more power
equals more effectiveness". In many cases, the opposite is actually being found to be true.
The 6C EM+ actually may have quite a bit more 'power' than what needs to be employed to produce optimum body response in many situations; for example, using a modest percentage of it's output power capability at the "300" power level
setting is repeatedly being reported to produce the maximum positive response, while also producing the minimum of adverse collateral reactions.
On the 6C EM+, you can take a TriField meter in hand and back away from a single Resonant Plasma tube about 8 feet before the E-field reading drops from being pegged off-scale, down to the 100,000 volts per meter E-field density reading when the "Power Output Level" setting is set at the "300" level. With the output power set up to the maximum "1220" setting, you need to back away about ten feet (or more) from the Resonant Plasma tube before the Trifield meter's reading drops to that same 100,000 volts per meter E-field density reading. That's a lot of power in the E-field. Being within 8 feet of the tube, even at this modest Output Power Level setting, continuously produces results for users of the EM+ systems.
But the E-field reading is only a simple 'energy field density' reading, and it does not offer any 'qualitative' information about the characteristics of the resonance being set up within, and radiated from, the plasma tube (/tubes). When run at the higher 1220 setting, there is more of a secondary 'ringing' / damped wave resonance present in the radiated waveforms from the plasma. While this may be acceptable and usable in many situations for many research subjects, there may also be many research subjects who will in fact respond more positively to the 'cleaner' plasma resonance that results when the power level is controlled and the plasma resonance characteristics are optimized at intermediate power levels.
Research subjects using the EM+ systems at the 300 Power Output Level setting report dramatic results with a minimum of collateral reaction that are otherwise experienced when a higher power output level is selected. (Many times the 'collateral adverse reactions' experienced from exposure to a plasma system with too much input power, resulting in variations and uncontrolled plasma resonance characteristics, are being misinterpreted as 'healing reactions', and people are even being told that they are a 'good sign'.... even though while they feel like crap for days after an exposure, their condition remains relatively unchanged for prolonged periods.... (What's wrong with this picture?)
So maybe this often-repeated misconception that "more power is better" needs to be very closely examined once more.
The body may in fact respond optimally within certain 'power windows', or more properly 'windows of receptivity'. While the body is known to be responsive to extremely subtle resonance influences (as evidenced by the results repeatedly produced by the ABPA devices in use by Dr. Jeff Sutherland and many others), it is also known to go into a 'resistive' or self-protective made when exposed to adverse fields or energy levels; EAV testing and various forms of body response testing illustrates this beyond question.
So yes, in many cases, 'more is less'... more power is paradoxically less effective... an interesting dilemma for those who are marketing from the standpoint that "More MUST be better!??). And the often repeated clamor of "MORE POWER - MORE POWER - MORE POWER!" may have misled many well-meaning researchers, or individuals fighting their health challenges, looking for help and hope...
Extensive reports on this subject, arising out of research done over the last year, are being prepared, which should offer further insight. Until these reports are completed, I'd suggest those who are interested to utilize whatever body response testing systems they may have available to them to investigate this subject further.
I wish each of you the best of progress and insights in your research!
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Be Well!!
Bruce
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth
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> KU> Hi Mike and Lee,
>
> KU> I can't offer too much information from experience with the GB4000 and RF, I don't have one.
> KU> It has commonly been spoken about, that RF is required to make the signal penetrate the body, better.
> KU> Gosh, how does one measure this ?
> KU> My RF plasma machine is modulated with a 250kHz (low RF square wave) signal. It is a good machine. Using the TriField, the RF signal goes out to about 18 inches from the tube.
> KU> If I put the TriField 6 inches from the light, RF at 100%, then put my hand in-between the TriField and the plasma lamp, the RF almost goes to zero. I don't know if a higher RF signal like the
> KU> B/R uses would read any different?
> KU> My hand was obviously a shield to RF in this test.
> KU> From the harmonics I've seen generated with the use of RF, wow, there are a lot compared to straight audio. All these harmonics I would think act like a pump, applying pressure and energy to the
> KU> signal that is transmitted to the body. As some people are sensitive to RF, then a neat feature on the GB4000 - would be a variable RF dial. So modulation could happen at 50kHz to 500kHz or
> KU> greater. As we turn down the RF, so does the harmonic signals reduce, so less RF pressure is placed on the signal, and this would give people an option to use just a little bit of RF to assist
> KU> the audio signal. Some people may find their body responds better to a particular level of RF, and this could be different from people to people, so it makes sense for a variable RF signal in a
> KU> contact pad system.
> KU> With plasma systems, we sit outside the measurable RF field, and from use with my machine, at 4 feet to 6 feet out from the tube, there is no detectible signal. The E field is zero at around
> KU> three and a half feet. So what is doing the work? Dr Rife held the plasma tube very close to people, aiming the electrodes to maximize the signal hitting the body. People were very well in the RF
> KU> field with his method.
> KU> With the EMEM, we sit well in the E Field, so I have been told. The E field from the novelty plasma lamps can go out 4 to 6 feet. Alvin tells me the E Field on his EM7V is 100%, 10 feet out from
> KU> the tube. This is a big signal, but there is no RF in it.
> KU> With contact pads, we are putting the RF directly into the body. So we have to do this carefully I would think. I would imagine it would be much easier to experience RF loading from contact pads, than by using a RF plasma system. When used with instructions, no RF loading is noticeable on the RF plasma systems, although Bruce Stenulson has made very important remarks about the use of chaotic RF in the EMEM systems that use a spark plug to generate RF.
>
> KU> Regards,
> KU> Ken U.
Dear Bruce,
Just a note of appreciation for your most recent message. Your observations and remarks are probably as important as any I have read over the past number of years. They help all of us to understand the phenomina resulting from use of energy therapy; also, your remarks help us focus on the dangers of jumping to (undocumented) conclusions about the instruments we are using and the results we are achieving.
Without a background in physics and electronics, but with broad experience in clinical application of frequency techniques, I marvel at the fact that people get results (or not) using all manner of instruments, irrespective of cost, and all manner of frequencies, irrespective of specificity or manner of determination. From a scientific point of view, such results should not occur employing such diverse methods, but then this is similar to the bumblebee who is able to fly despite the fact that it is aerodynamically 'impossible' for him to do so.
Thanks to you and the knowledge you have shared, I now have an understanding of why people get "good responses" to approaches making no clinical sense; why people report a "good experience" while I am unable to duplicate their experience using their approach, and you have provided me an extraordinary awareness of the possible negative consequences of using powerful equipment incorrectly.
I cannot thank you enough for your contribution.
Best regards, Nate B.
the symptoms described are very normal for exposure to pulsed high frequency radiation of mobile phones. phone masts, cordless phones according the DECT principle and wireless modem/routers for the internet. A lot of this stuff is used in offices.
Another cause for those symptoms may be electrical and magnetic AC fields, around electrical appliances.
And, of course, we have the disturbances in the VLF region, from 5 kHz up to 150 kHz, which may be in de mains electricity network and coming from outside, as well as mabe by the inhabitants by themselves through halogen
lights, transformers for fluorescent lighting, etc. (Here the Stetzer filters can help).
I use this special meter, which only checks the situation inside the wall socket. On top of that I have a special VLF meter, with a telescopic antenna, with which I measure *in the air*, so I can find the sources.
Many people think, that a Trifield meter measures everything, but that is not the case. For detection, there are other meters around.
Regarding the HF radiation, I have found, that people (with a certain history) exposed to 200-2.000 uW/m2 may become electrosensible. But, when they have become so, they may already react at exposures starting at 1 uW/m2; some already react at 0,1 uW/m2. I have also found, that electrosensibles feel much weaker signals, and even at greater distances.
So it is quite possible, that electrosensibles pick up the radiation from the globe, not at 8 inches, but even from a few meters away.
Greetings,
Charles C.
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006
Subject: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may be the key
Ken U wrote:
>> Thanks Bruce,
>>
>> It is a real privilege when experts such as yourself, Dr Loyd and James Bare share information here.
>>
>> I know RF loading in the body, and have experienced it several times.
>>
>> My whole house is RF shielded, walls and roof, except for floors and windows. Quite interesting when friends come over with their mobile phones, they don't work in the house and have to go outside to use them.
>>
>> When I have stayed too close for too long, within the RF field my RF plasma system generates (and this is not a spark plug chaotic signal) that I experience RF loading, and not a herx effect.
>>
>>>From my experience, and on my own body, RF loading effects the upper body tissue. The neck/skull muscles known as the occipitals, become tight, may be more of fascia trauma binding down on these muscles. When these muscle
>>>>get restricted, they can effect the cervical artery, that is, reducing blood flow out of the brain, which increases pressure in the brain and will produce nasty migraine headaches that can linger for days and not be
>>>>relieved by drugs. This binding down of tissue on blood and nerve channels
>>>>can easily lead to other symptoms as you have described.
>
>>
>> Upper body tightness is also another symptom of RF loading, and not a herx reaction.
>>
>> When I sit outside the RF field the plasma transmitter produces, zero loading occurs.
>>
>> The novelty plasma lamp with its tiny 28kHz carrier, hasn't produced these
>> results at all, even when I have been exposed to 4+ hours of it. But it's
>> only a 20 watt system and would be classified as more of a Homeopathic
>> Energetic tool than a powerful Rife type machine. The TriField does pick
>> up RF out to about 8 inches from the globe, so if this plasma transmitter
>> was used in contact mode for long times, then may be some RF loading might
>> manifest. I haven't experienced this to date.
>>
>> I suspect one client I see may fall into the category of working in a
>> dirty noisy building, every fortnight she comes to see me and it is like
>> she has been sitting in a strong RF field all day at her work. I have
>> forward her your link about this topic that you just shared with us. All
>> her upper body and neck muscles have become tight and rigged, super
>> stressed. It takes a good 2 hours of work on her to unwind these muscles,
>> she gets instant relief, but it soon ceases when she goes back to work and
>> gets stressed out again. She loves her work and can't understand why her
>> body gets so stressed all the time. When she is on holidays, away from the
>> building, no problems, no head aches and no tight and stressed tissue in
>> her body.
>>
>> Question: Would the TriField be strong enough to detect harmful RF living
>> on our 50/60 Hz mains power supply ? If so it would be easy to check her
>> building to see if it was clean or dirty.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ken
Ken,
[BKS] Since the Tri-Field meter was designed primarily for lower frequency response as I remember it, and it's ability to measure if very relative to the frequency range, readings on it's meter drop off as frequencies increase (see the
Alpha Labs Website for far more complete information on this characteristic- the response graphs relative to frequency are available there.) But since some of the electro-pollution we are interested in is quite high, it might be also
valuable to look at the information on:
http://www.electricalpollution.com
Stetzer & Graham have offered information for setting up specific test equipment on that web site; it's relatively simple to do.
(Incidentally, one of my cousins says that she has been benefitted substantially by installing the Graham-Stetzer 'electro-pollution filters in her home; she teaches in one of the schools where the filters were first implemented, and
reports that it made a major difference for both staff and students.)
Be Well!!
Bruce
Message from Luigi F. to the RIFE List 04-02-2006
Re: machine and how it works...? :
Quality, not Quantity may be the key
Like I said: one of my sisters in law vaccinates her whole family for the flu every year.
And every year most if not all of them get the flu anyway.
She was over last night for my son's thirteenth birthday party and was not happy at all at seeing me out and about.
You see, just yesterday morning I had gone through general anesthesia to have an internal stent removed (from the kidney to the bladder-the next to last reminder that I had had cancer), so I was supposed to be in bed full of pain killers, not helping out with the party.
When the doctors told me I was terminal this girl had suggested for my kids to see a shrink to help out with the impending loss of their father. Because of course showing your family that you are willing to put up a fight is not healthier than accepting death.
When I easily survived through last summer-and I was not supposed to-she started to say that the diagnosis (from Sloan and NY Hospital) was evidently wrong.
She found out how much I spent on my EM+ and what supplements and vitamins I take every day, and has complained aloud that it is wasted money I should leave behind for my kids.
Yesterday night she was finally told that my cancer markers are zero two months in a row, so of course she mentioned that the whole thing was definitely a scam on my part, which makes perfect sense: I left a job that paid me five grand a week to make people feel sorry for me.
This girl had had twins through cesarean section and, when she turned out pregnant again she followed the doctor's advice to try and have a normal delivery instead of getting cut again. She lost the baby and almost died herself.
Some people will fight to the last breath in their bodies as a matter of principle because reality goes against everything they've been taught. I just pray that if she ever has to face what my family did she has the humility and common sense to ask for help instead of counting on an allopathic "magic bullet".
Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has stopped talking to my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he eliminated his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...
Luigi
I recently acquired a Stenulson 6C EM+, which I am extremely pleased with. It is powerful, and can be run either with the internal frequency generator, or by an external frequency generator. The cost is much less than the Beam Ray or the PPET. I am currently operating it with the F165.
His machines have some unique features that some of the others don't have. I have the 6C EM+ and am extremely happy with it.
Bruce has also been extremely helpful and informative. You can get more information at www.stenulson.net
Gail E.
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I have used frequencies from the different lists with varying rates of success. Probably the most effective ones from any list that worked best for me were the "doug" frequencies; however, not all of them were effective for me. You need a way to determine if a frequency is beneficial/needed for you or not. I also don't have any particular frequencies that I use for the hip pain -- the frequencies I run for lyme deal with it quite well.
The frequencies detected on the FScan that are effective for my lyme are in the 188-198K and 365-385K range. It is difficult to give exact frequencies, because the hit bandwidth is anywhere from 50-150Hz determined by the dirp function. This also doesn't take into consideration all the frequencies needed to take care of the various co-infections.
The most effective treatment for me has been the lyme frequency sets published by Dr. Jeff Sutherland at www.frequencyresearch.org His programs are written for the F100 series of generators, so if you are using the GB4000, you would have to develop a method to adapt them for that device.
GE
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Re: For Bruce Stenulson, etc. Re: Help! Horrible migraine herxs : posted 04-01-2006
I have been using Bruce's 6C EM+ for lyme and various other pathogens (flu/cold/strep, parasites, etc) for about a month now, along with a couple of other devices and have had excellent results with it. One of the benefits is the variable power control. Bruce is also extremely helpful and a delight to speak with.
I believe the secret is targeting all of the pathogens involved, not just the lyme. See www.frequencyresearch.org and read through some of the posts about lyme. They begin in the July 2005 issue, listed on the left side of the page. You may have to scroll down the screen some to find it. Dr. Jeff Sutherland's programs developed for lyme, among other things, are the most effective I have found.
GE
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Why does it seem that family members are less accepting of this technology than strangers?? I have had some interesting and exciting conversations about this with many people I have come in contact with, but most of my family is a whole different story .... you'd think they would be thrilled that it works so well, but it seems like they are wanting it to not work.
I have used it successfully on my lyme, and recently eliminated my 87-year-old aunt's bronchitis. She's ecstatic, but no one else seems to believe her either. Go figure.
GE
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Troy,
I'm glad your protocol is working so well for you, and so many of your symptoms are lessening or gone. Wonderful technology, isn't it?!
I have had lyme for 20+ years, diagnosed in 2004, and using frequency therapy since January 2005. In addition to using it for lyme, I have found many other things to use it for. The latest success was getting rid of my 87-year-old aunt's bronchitis she had for a month using the TrueRife sets for "Bronchitis" and "Cough-Lingering". I ran her on my 6C EM+ plasma machine, and then finished the job by running the same sets (with repeats) for her in the ABPA for another 24 hours. She is ecstatic with the results. Unfortunately, the rest of my family is not so enthusiastic about all this.
Keep up the good work!
GE
Hi Ken,
you wrote ' How do you imprint water with frequencies ?'
With a contact device I attach the electrodes to a coil of 1.5 mm diam copper wire wrapped about 20 turns around a cardboard mandrel into which I can slide a bottle of distilled water. I run the frequency that I require for about 3 minutes to energise the water with the specific frequency. This will also work with sugar pills. It also works if you connect to a microphone, which then acts as a sonotrode and stand the bottles on top whilst you run the frequency. I have not tried but I surmise a transducer will have the same effect.
Best Regards
Tony P.
p.s Using the coil with an alternating frequency will effectively clean any homeopathic tablets that you can then re-potentise with a selected frequency.
>> Re: Paul from Toronto, however- he called while I was trying to compose this message.
>> And:
>> "Paul is one of those unfortunate individuals who has had Lyme for a
>> long time, & who recently tried to use "Rife" equipment (devices made
>> by other people out there) as his last hope. In hopes of gaining some
>> benefit, he ran it a lot; In using the equipment he bought, he has
>> now become so extensively electro-sensitive (as well as also being
>> very chemically sensitive) that he can not even stand to turn on ANY
>> of his devices "
>>
>> Look I think the words above and below need a bit more serious
>> investigation...
>> Is it possible that we could have some more info on exactly what Paul
>> was using and how he did his sessions....Thanks..wondering Noel
[BKS Response:]
Noel,
I certainly agree with you when you say that this report of my conversation with Paul in Toronto needs more serious investigation. When he called, I asked him to try to write out a report of this in as detailed a form as possible... and his
response shed further light on just how serious his condition has become.
Paul said that even going near a computer is now completely out of the question for him. (He can no longer be near enough to his TV to watch it- can not stand to have it turned on anywhere near him-, and is wondering about whether he might be able to be around an LCD TV. He said that the TV & radio were the only things left that he can possibly enjoy in life, and the plug-in radio is now also something he can not be near any more. I recommended trying running it on
batteries, to eliminate exposure to the 60 Hz Magnetic field from the power supply.)
He said he would ask his mother to write out a report for him, because, with his heightened chemical sensitivity, he now can not even stand to place his hand on a piece of paper to write with a pencil himself- "The chemicals in the paper
bother me too much"....
(Are you starting to get the picture of how severely this guy's life has been devastated?)
How did he ever get this far without stopping using the equipment?
Because, like many Lyme sufferers, he believed it when he was told by others who
are supposedly 'in the know', "IF YOU MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BAD WHEN YOU RIFE, YOU
ARE DOING YOURSELF GOOD" - that "YOU HAVE TO 'HERX' TO HELP YOURSELF"... and the poor guy fell for it as gospel, kept making himself feel like crap over and over in the hopes that he was holding the Lyme at bay by doing so....
He says that he had previously used, and had to stop using each and every one of the antibiotics used for Lyme but one now, and he knows the this one is expected to produce side effects after using it for a while so that he will no longer be
able to use this last one, either... The "RIFEING" was his last hope in a long battle. And now that hope has been taken away from him, too.... He confessed to having been considering 'euthanasia' recently, but was feeling a bit better from
talking with me, because I had several suggestions for him to act on to improve his life, eliminate several environmental stressor exposure factors, and possibly thereby to hold his ground from deteriorating any further, and possibly
begin to gradually recover a bit at a time.
So at this time, all we can do is to see if he is successful in getting a report written by his mother, and has it mailed to me. I promised him that I would pass along his story in his own words, so that others already facing health challenges can hopefully learn from it and be more cautious.
"For many people this is a lot of exposure to low power RF (not to mention the bombardment from all the transmitting towers). So an hour or so with an EMEM and a low power spark doesn't seem so bad by comparison. I know, the less RF pollution the better."
BKS Previous message in reply:
It saddens me that you appear to have missed the points of my extensive article completely... I certainly have no desire to offend you, so I want to respectfully suggest that you reread it, and search widely elsewhere for further information on the aspects that I might not have expanded upon sufficiently. "Doesn't Seem Bad By Comparison" ???
I do advocate precautions; the "First, Do No Harm" concept put forth by Hippocrates has always seemed a valid baseline from which to approach this research- especially when someone might be contemplating placing experimental
equipment into the hands of health-challenged individuals who's condition may possibly be *severely compromised* by even one more added 'Stressor Factor'
Maybe someone else can put it simpler words yet... and maybe it's just a message that some people simply don't want to consider.
I just got off the phone with Paul from Toronto, however- he called while I was trying to compose this message. Paul is one of those unfortunate individuals who has had Lyme for a long time, & who recently tried to use "Rife" equipment (devices made by other people out there) as his last hope. In hopes of gaining some benefit, he ran it a lot; In using the equipment he bought, he has now become so extensively electro-sensitive (as well as also being very chemically sensitive) that he can not even stand to turn on ANY of his devices- can NOT even have it turned on long enough to set one of the Beneficial frequencies.
(This is with the RF carrier turned off, not using the amplifier, and with the output amplitude still at zero... pretty scary that someone can become THAT sensitive in a moderately short period of time...) His condition was so aggravated by the previous "rife" exposures, that he now finds riding in a normal car is very damaging (ignition system EMF / RF), and almost intolerable. Even trying to use his cordless rechargeable Braun shaver now aggravates his condition with about 30 seconds of turning it on- he will have to learn to shave with a blade again....
The scary part: he was not noticeably electro-sensitive as recently as about four months ago- his condition has gone this far downhill since then while trying to use the 'rife' equipment.
Since he can no longer even tolerate turning on his 'rife' equipment, he's close to giving up... he's been pushed that far down the descending spiral.
I told him that, in his present condition, that he is too sensitive to use most of the equipment which I offer researchers, too- he's gone too far. I advised him that unless he can find a way to get out of his present living environment, remove himself from the possible constant health stressor factors which he may be unable to recognize but which are a part of living in the middle of a polluted metropolitan area,, that simply ceasing using the equipment that contributed to his severe deterioration will not in itself be enough to allow him to regain some semblance of a 'normal life.' But I did try to offer him a variety of alternative approaches to implement, and give him some grounds for hope.
But unless he adopts a very rigorous attitude of "Prudent Avoidance" from this moment forward, the outlook is not overly promising for Paul- he's now a long way beyond the easy turnaround point.
So in consideration of what we KNOW is happening to a growing number of people like Paul, are you still seriously thinking it would be just fine to advocate and sell equipment that can so rapidly do this type of damage to someone who comes to you desperate for help? - Especially when we ALREADY KNOW from years of research that the damaging aspects are not only *unnecessary*, but are also reported by reputable sources to REDUCE effectiveness, to REDUCE the body's receptiveness? I find it difficult to believe that you would be, in light of all that's known today, but after your recent postings, I'm sure that others are left wondering too.
(Sorry to put you on the spot, but between your post, and then Paul's desperation call, it became painfully obvious that it's past time, viewed from his precarious position, to serve up a meal of 'roasted sacred cow'.)
Food for thought...)
I wish each and every one of you the best of results and insights in your research!!!
Bruce
I appreciate what you shared about the sensitivity to rifing that some people have. I find it refreshing also, that you come from this place and you sell equipment to researchers as well...I think this kind of integrity is rare and commend you for you for taking this postition.
I have several rife machines but find I get the most benefit from microcurrent type devices that don't overwhelm my system.
I have worked as a health care practitioner for about 30 years and have seen the sensitivity to frequency devices you mentioned and actually find it fairly common among chronic heal problems.
I think its important for people to know about this...some people talk about herxing and I often wonder what percentage is actually reactivity to the equipment being too much for them.
Many people cannot handle cell phones, nor computers and have trouble with the ac flowing through their house...
In some ways I think people that have these problems are the canary's in the mine... we are being bombarded continuously with aberrant frequencies from tv. computer, cell towers, ac power lines and they are affecting us....whether we are conscious of it or not...
As the frequency use of devices has gotten into the frequency range that the body uses(computers, routers, cell phones), the potential for damage is even more possible...
I have had to find the offenders in business situations and clinics because co-workers were getting ill, complaining of headaches, disorientation, fatigue, etc... people would often get better as the offending electronic smog was dealt with.
I am sorry to hear about the person you mentioned..for those that cannot handle rife frequencies, there is a machine that can take the energy from their body, magnify it and filter out all other frequencies, so you can use it like a rife machine, only its using your own energy...its expensive(Bicom or Mora) but if they were to see a practioner it would be more reasonable.
There are homeopathics as well to help with electronic radiation, em geopathic stress...as well...
Byron
04-04-2006 BKS message :
--- In Rife@yahoogroups.com, a n advocate of the use of RF & chaos signals wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> I did go through your entire e-mail, regarding the spark gap.
>>
>> The only reason I would add a spark as an OPTION is because some
>> people have been reported to benefit from this. People reading
>> your post need not be very concerned, since they don't have to
>> use the option (and they can even request that it not be included
>> in their model).
>>
>> If there are too many people who are electro- sensitive I will not
>> add the spark function to any models. I do appreciate your
>> advice.
BKS: Recent figures (2002?) in the U.S. are that about 15% or more of the people are presently having electro-sensitivity problems to the extent that it affects their quality of life; the trend is that this is increasing steadily, and it may well already be substantially above that by now. This should be disturbing to everyone.
In contrast, in about 1930, Nikola Tesla was the only one I've heard of who was ever reported to have developed electro-sensitivity from his research experiments. [Source: Dr. James L. Oschman's book, "Energy Medicine- the Scientific Basis".]
The factor to understand is the ANYONE may begin to be far more sensitive quickly due to unrecognized factors that are added into their living / working environment- things beyond their comprehension or control; I have come across a lot of people who "didn't used to be bothered by those things" that now find life far more challenging.... and more challenging each month, each year.
And in light of today's 'advancing technology', the 'environmental stressors' which people are exposed to will only continue to increase. (The 1930s slipped away 66 years ago, and with it, the substantially unpolluted environment in which Tesla, Lahkovsky, Abrams, and Rife first did research... the game has changed radically...)
>> I don't recall in your recent posts your mention of just
>> how many sick people are very sensitive to very low levels of RF.
BKS : By the time I hear from some of the people who have had their conditions aggravated or their health condition deteriorate from using equipment with spark gaps (or other added RF / chaos /noise generators), they invariably have dropped out of communication on any of the lists. Why might this be?
Maybe many of are disillusioned that they may have been misled by those seeming to claim some 'authority', but who themselves disregard the reports and cautions which have been offered. They simply no longer trust the advice or veracity of what they were told.
Some of them, like Bill M. in B.C. and Paul in Toronto, have followed the advice of some, only to find themselves to severely affected that the can no longer tolerate being near a computer, so they drop out of communication- out of a basic need for self-preservation. (It took Bill M. over ten months of moving outside and sleeping in his old tent before he got back in touch with me via an email; it's still rare to get a message from him, but he was still surviving about 6 to 8 months ago when I last head from him- still hyper-sensitive after all of these years, but able to occasionally communicate. But he has not recovered to where he had been prior to using the EMEM-2 and the "Enhancer" MWO.
Because I have had the MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity / Environmental Sensitivity information, and the
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
precautionary page on the adverse reactions to EMF / RF - [Electro-Sensitivity] on my web site since back in the 1990s, I'm someone who hears from others with environmental and electrical / EMF / RF sensitivity... and some of the situations I hear about make me both sad for how their lives have been devastated, and also angry at those who, in their rush to exploit what they see as an 'easy market', will ignore cautions. Linda from California gave me her promise that she would carefully write out the details of how a very few brief exposure sessions to an EMEM7DV with spark gap 'totally messed her up'... but she never followed through on that promise, so I can not pass along her story in her words. Her brain fog and sensitivities had become a major challenge to her, on top of the Lyme she was trying to deal with, so it seems that she was either diverted by other concerns, or simply lost the ability and willingness to follow through on her promise.
Cary in Texas could not tolerate using the early 1998 model EMEM2+ which I had built for her (with the spark gap included) for her battle with Lyme; she was already too hyper-sensitive. Once I told her later how to eliminate the spark gap, she began to be able to use it on the lower output power level settings for limited times on a limited number of frequencies per session, so she has begun to make gradual progress. She reports that if the power level is set up above a certain level, she experiences what we are now recognizing as "collateral adverse reactions" - reactions that are not experienced by those sensitive Lyme sufferers when the power level is kept within their 'window of positive response'.
Yes, that's what is being reported: when a helpful frequency is run at too high a power level, these sensitive Lyme sufferers instead begin to have 'adverse collateral reactions'. With too much exposure at too high a power level, they do not see their condition improving, even though they are using the same frequencies which other researchers fighting Lyme have used to become totally free of symptoms- some for many years now.
Unfortunately, I now expect that this "Over-Powered" approach is an all too common situation- especially among Lyme sufferers- an ever expanding portion of the population.
"Quality, not Quantity, IS the Key!"
After 8-1/2 years of this research, I am more convinced of this than ever. All of the evidence is really there- that people without sensitivities to EMF / RF / Environmental factors *also* respond most positively to modest power levels when using the EM+ systems I designed. And no, Herx' reactions are rarely a part of their experience- the health challenges simply disappear. So if people do not respond that way to other equipment, then you should really be curious to find out what's not working in those designs.
And it may become more obvious by now to many researchers that *MORE* - more voltage, more current, more RF, and more chaotic noise- might be exactly the wrong way to go. It's most obvious with the people with the most severe health challenges- the ones closest to the edge; for them its very likely that *MORE* can be that last straw... the straw that breaks the camel's back, that tips them into that descending spiral of ever increasing environmental sensitivity, decreasing quality of life...
Maybe, in light of this information, the people who have been competitively marketing equipment based on this misguided clamor of "MORE POWER!- MORE POWER!- MORE POWER!" will begin to re-evaluate what they are advocating, and actually do some thorough in depth testing with quality test equipment, as well as using some of the available body response testing techniques to observe how a wide variety of individuals actually respond to their latest 'brain-child'. Initial responses are not as revealing as evaluating how they respond after extended periods of repeated use...
It might be time for some of this extensive re-evaluation before the litigators jump in.... at that point, what happened to Michael Forrest after he violated the specific terms of the agreement he signed with the Federal Trade Commission will possibly seem rather mild by comparison. Let's work together to see if we can keep the situation from progressing to that level.
I wish each and every one of you the best of results and insights in your research!!!
Be Well- and *Be Careful!*
Bruce
Nenah Sylver's Contribution: 04-04-2006
I want to add to what Bruce has so eloquently and caringly explained. The notions that "bigger is better" and "more, not less will do the job," is a typical Western mindset that has little basis in the reality of how living organisms operate. The cells are exquisitely sensitive to all types of electromagnetic, electrical, and magnetic fields--so much so, that being near power lines can produce ill health in a very short period. And, conversely, the tiniest amounts of, say, electrical current (as with Carolyn McMakin's microcurrent system) can heal.
There are many variables that contribute to what makes an electrical device work; the engineers on this list know this very well and can explain it better than I can. However, what I do have personal experience and clinical knowledge of is how responsive people (and animals) can be when they get what they need. Often, it doesn't have to be a lot; it simply has to be precise. Not everyone needs huge doses of whatever they are taking. I also concede that not everyone can respond (or is aware of responding) to what might be regarded as homeopathic doses of electricity and magnetism.
Nevertheless, as Bruce pointed out, the +combination+ of burdens that we are subjected to in this modern age often can cause dis-ease whereas a single burden might not have that effect. Many people who begin experimenting with
frequency devices have exhausted other possibilities and are pretty sick when they begin Rifing. It would seem, then, that it's worth being extra careful about EM fields, and it might save someone's life to listen to them describe their symptoms--which may be the result of an electrical device rather than die-off (Herxheimer) reactions.
A great book that explains about electro-sensitivity, simply and clearly and accurately, is D. Blake Levitt's Electromagnetic Fields.
Best to all,
Nenah
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The Importance of Plasma Resonance Optimization Control In Relation to EM+ Systems
One of the first things that attracted me to the Bruce Stenulson EM+ systems was that they are about as far from "typical" as you can get in regard to Rife-type devices. [Personally, I prefer to call these machines "Resonant Frequency Therapy Devices" since Rife himself did not want his name associated with his own devices - plus, we are so far away from what Rife was actually doing that it is really misleading.] But anyway, these EM+ systems offer so much more flexibility than others, it is astounding. One part of that flexibility is the plasma resonance optimization control.
We have technology in our hands today that works, but it is a lot like purchasing a musical instrument. There are various qualities that can be purchased, but also the skill of the "player" must come into account as well. I have personally found after much research and experimentation that the EM+ series of frequency instruments give vastly superior results when compared to virtually ALL other available devices. While there are many factors that combine to lead me to the preceding statement, the one I wish to write about is the plasma resonance optimization control - a control found exclusively on Bruce Stenulson's EM+ systems.
As Bruce himself explained to me: "Plasma Resonance Optimization is achieved by adjusting factors of the timing of
how the plasma [is] fired, which are in turn relative to multiple other dynamic factors in my system." That is really about the most simple and understandable explanation I can think of to give to a layperson (such as myself). To take it one step simpler would be to just say (in my words): "It makes the plasma act differently inside the tube, which causes better or worse effectiveness depending on where you set it." (Please understand that by using the word "worse" - I am not referring to any negative effects!)
For a time, I was in the mindset of using the "set it and forget it" approach with my 6C EM+. Why? Laziness, perhaps - along with the fact that I was getting great results! Only after I gave it some thought one day did I realize what kind of an error I may have been making. Not so much an error as in doing something wrong, but just not doing it as well as it could be done. Much like you can play a piece of music with a number of different interpretations, the same holds true with operating an EM+ device!
I looked at a program that I was using that had frequencies ranging from roughly 600Hz to 5,000Hz and began to think: "Is there a difference in how the plasma is reacting at 600Hz vs. 5,000Hz when the optimization dial is just sitting in one place?" The answer seemed obvious: While everything "worked" just fine with the program, only somewhere in the middle of the frequencies was I getting the most "bang for the buck" out of the tube. I re-started the program on a lower setting and used contact mode so I could "feel" what was happening better. The program was perfect for this test, for the frequencies were in ascending order. The 6xx Hz freq. came on and after a few seconds I dialed the optimization knob counterclockwise from its 2:00 position. Whoa! The intensity of the feeling in my abdomen at least doubled; the "singing" of the tube went from mild to loud as I neared a certain point. Beyond that, it began to back off again. It was *very* easy to tell when the plasma was optimized to that specific frequency. I repeated the test through the program, noticing as the frequencies went higher, the dial would end up more and more clockwise the higher the freq's would go.
The true test would be with other people, though. I began with folks that were "new" to having any treatments done - and centered the focus on Arthritis only, since I had a program that had been working very well with it. I did not even have to ask anyone any questions such as "is this better than this?". I could tell simply by hearing. The results were astounding. Usually the program took 1-2 weeks to have a really good effect. I was now getting called within a day with praise on how wonderful these people felt!
I then applied the new tactic to people who have been on the machine before. Same thing in every case! When the plasma is optimized for each frequency run, results come about faster. Matter of fact, in cases of pain management - they last longer as well. The bottom line is simple: In 100% of the people I worked with where I changed plasma optimization during the course of a session, there was a significant "improvement of improvement". Since I do not use EAV or muscle testing, I simply rely on what is told to me -- and all of these people brought up the subject; I did not have to squeeze them for information! That speaks volumes to me. I hope it sheds some light on the significance of this little knob and how much it can change the effectiveness of treatments.
MW
[Rife] "Are you saying All RF Is Bad?"
04-05-2006 BKS message
Friends,
I just received a message which tried to quote me as saying that "All RF is bad".
That certainly is not what I've been saying at all, so I would like to offer the following in hopes that this might clarify the perspective from which I speak, and from which I have offered the information and cautions over the last couple weeks. This also will likely not 'prove' anything to anyone, and is not intended to do so. It's not my job to spell it out for each of you- merely to offer enough food for thought so that some of you will be motivated to pursue further research elsewhere. Find your own answers, reach your own decisions- no one else should do that for you!
1> Consider that all of the higher harmonics radiated form the EM+ system Plasma Tube & induced into the subject have a primary resonance as an essential component, but the harmonics do also spread across what is commonly and properly referred to as the RF spectrum; some of these can be used for beneficial purposes.
[As an example, the Ukranian researchers have used very specifically selected / adjusted resonances up within the 58 GHz to 62 GHz range (but only at very modest power levels, as I understand it) very effectively. C. Norman Schealy (sp.?) the founder of the American Holistic Medical Association writes of this and uses such equipment in his practice. So aspects of the Resonant Radiant Plasma' dynamics are already operational in the RF spectrum.]
2> I have never said that "All RF is bad"- if that's the impression you have, we need to talk again. the "RF" label is misused, abused, and leads to communication breakdowns, because everyone is prone to latching onto their own favorite way of thinking about what it might mean, discarding the rest...
3> It would be utterly confusing for people to be left to assume that all of the equipment out there is 'the same', and that everything being sold is necessarily even capable of operating at the same dynamic performance level as the EM+ systems which I designed. From not only my own perspective, but also from the reports of many researchers who have used a wide variety of the equipment out there, this is clearly NOT the case.
(Now figure out how to state that diplomatically without having other marketers of experimental equipment being offended, or feeling that their toes are being tromped on rudely.... I do not see an easy way to do it !)
4> As in many things, while there are surface similarities, the differences in operating dynamics may actually be quite profound. The key is in the differences- not at all in the similarities.
5> My "Plasma Resonance Optimization " approach, which I've refined through my research, testing, and design evolution since early 1998, and the capabilities built into the resulting complex EM+ circuitry using the "Plasma Resonance Optimization Control", were unique to the EM+ systems 6 years ago, and continue to be.
6> My approach to providing multiple selectable levels of output power was an aspect which I first developed and introduced late in 1997, unique when I first developed, tested, and define it's usefulness, implemented it, and shared that information with others.
7> The elaborate signal generating / processing circuitry I designed that is integrated within the EM+ systems, and the effectiveness of the resulting operational plasma resonance dynamics, may put these EM+ systems in an operational class by itself. I designed the circuitry to process input frequencies from almost any external source in 2000, but did not release the System 6C EM+, which incorporated this elaborate multi-stage signal processing circuitry, for availability to other researchers (beyond my testing collaborators) until January of 2002. I simply wanted to verify that this entirely new circuitry could produce consistent dynamic results for those using it. Two years of refinement and testing had resulted in the most consistently effective system yet, with the Plasma Resonance Optimization concept and control as an important integral part of it's dynamics.
8> [Since other H.V. plasma systems in the EMEM design class are reported to be either *ineffective*, or far less effective according to the reports of their own makers, when run without either an RF carrier, or a spark gap generated wide-spectrum chaotic noise signal being added, you could deduce that there is a very significant difference in the operational dynamics of these systems.
9> Many of the "EMEM" Plasma devices still being sold today are either dressed-up versions of the Dan Tracy EMEM-2 design, or else are re-packagings of the simplistic Jimmie Holman "Poor Man's Rife" approach. In a possibly misguided effort to try to make them "more effective", most experimenters followed the thinking expressed by some that they needed to be 'more powerful'. So they began adding more coils, or added more RF... but this may have only pushed the plasma's operational characteristics from the marginally effective state, farther to the outside of the operational range that the body is most receptive to. While some could definitely 'feel it more', and stronger "Herx" reactions began to be produced, many people with conditions like advanced Lyme disease were and still are making very slow progress. Others saw their condition worsen, and developed heightened electro-sensitivity or other complications, which led to a rapidly deteriorating quality of life.
(Meanwhile, A vocal advocate of his new 500 watt RF carrier type design actually developed cancer, got real quiet, and dropped off the discussion lists to not ne heard from again.... I'm sure many would be curious as to the rest of thast story...)
So why is the statement of a "need" for an RF carrier a dangerously misleading myth?
10> Due to the presence of the resonant *magnetic* component of the field radiated from a properly designed Resonant Radiant Plasma system, the plasma resonance created by the EM+ system has no problem or limitations in penetration; Therefore there really is NO NEED for *adding* any extra "RF carriers". Adding RF (either as a fixed frequency, or in the form of a spark gap generated wide spectrum RF chaotic noise component) is actually observed to *REDUCE* the results already being achieved by the EM+ designs- it actually impedes the effectiveness or reduces the body's receptiveness.
The 'cleanness' of the resulting generated plasma resonance, and the resulting 'musical' tone of the singing plasma tubes, is quite noticeable when the EM+ system is used in certain modes and frequency ranges. (I'm told that the tubes on many EMEM type systems do not 'sing'; this may be a significant difference that can easily be observed by those trying to do comparisons. , and needs to be investigated further. While it certainly will not tell the entire story as to the differences in how systems actually operate, it might be a revealing part of it.)
11> So after many years of testing and use by many researchers we can say this: ADDING anything else to the already highly dynamic output of the EM+ systems will actually reduce it's dynamic interface with the body's energetic field, or even cause the body to go into a self-protective or 'blocking' mode- especially if it is not done in a very careful and dynamic way to 'harmonize' with and 'compliment' the primary resonance that the body needs. Today, we know that there is one sophisticated way that it is being done by leading edge researchers using the EM+ systems.
Jeff Sutherland first came up with the approach of adding two 'scalar harmonics'- frequencies generated by the F165 frequency Synthesizer as "background frequencies". This is the visionary approach of adding complimentary signals to the primary plasma resonance, to increase the body's receptiveness to that primary resonance. The key is that these scalar harmonics are directly derived for the primary frequency, and change continuously as the synthesized primary frequency changes. While some say that these scalar harmonics can be though of as a type of 'carrier', the important dynamic aspect is that they are designed to increase the body's receptiveness and ability to be benefitted by the combined resonance. So if the primary frequency is one to which the body is receptive - (a frequency it 'needs'-) then the effectiveness is enhanced.
Fixed frequency RF carriers, or random chaotic RF noise signals, simply may not be perceived and received in the same way by the body- especially more so after repeated exposures.
12> If researchers using other equipment choose to experiment with some form of RF carrier or spark gap generated wide spectrum chaotic RF noise signal, they might be prudent to approach it from this perspective: Any RF *can* possibly constitute a health stressor factor to any individual, and should therefore be used with caution while evaluating body response. Body response can also change due to either reaction to experimental equipment exposures, or in response to many environmental factors which may originate beyond an individual's perception or control. Therefore, while a fixed frequency RF carrier in any device may not initially be perceived to evoke a negative body response, it can become a stressor factor with repeated exposure, and especially in combination with stressor factors already present in a research subject's living or working environment. Body response testing / kinesiology testing, EAV testing, Radiesthesia techniques, etc., should therefore be used to evaluate research subject response on an ongoing basis.
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More later!
Bruce
LIST MEMBERS:
If I come across as rather intolerant of another individual's expressed opinions in the following article, you might take into consideration that I have recently become aware of what has happened to Paul in Toronto - how he was misguided into severely harming himself in his hopes to somehow hold the line in his prolonged battle with Lyme.... I feel very badly for him, as we share these same sensitivities; I progress through my own life by virtue of a rather rigid modus operandi of 'prudent avoidance.' His underlying message can also come through as this: "There- but for the grace of God, go you and I. It's sobering to know how quickly a person fighting serious health challenges but still enjoying some quality of life can loose that. Since the poor guy can not speak for himself here, and has asked me to do so for him, I feel compelled to get this information into everyone's hands.
EVERYONE should look further for their own answers- the insights of other researchers which are offered on these discussion lists should be understood to only be offered as possible directions for further inquiry. Expecting things to be spelled out simply, concisely, and completely may be unrealistic- research is always ongoing, and understandings continue to be evolved and be refined.
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A vocal RF Advocate wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> You gave this link (a few lines below here) apparently relating to our discussion. But all it talks about is the problem with 60Hz fields. As I recall the main discussion was about RF and various EM fields (not just 60Hz).
[BKS] I only offered a link to material which had previously been made available, never said it would tell you everything you needed to know; I have repeatedly told everyone to do further research and find there own answers- it's not my job to spell it all out for you. You seem eager to attack, rather than researching for yourself, and seem to be saying that since I have not spelled it all out for you in really simple words, that I'm somehow to blame... I don't buy into that.
It's quite obvious by now that you don't like the message... but attempting to shoot the messenger is not what the people with serious health challenges need.
>
> Also, you say on that page that your Electrostorm plasma globe
> uses 60Hz to power the plasma lamp. No, it uses a ~30kHz high
> voltage flyback. This is Very different from 60Hz. Here's what
> you said...
>
> BKS> http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
I own one of the Electrostorm type lamps, too, purchased at a Radio Shack store several years ago; it also uses a 60 Hz powered transformer to drive the plasma bulb".
I get energetically trashed very quickly when just walking past the plasma lamps in Wal-Mart. The one I bought from Radio Shack several years ago may actually be an "Ion Storm" or something with a similar name- it also had a very unsettling and destabilizing effect on me, so it was packed back in it's box, and it's been stored away for many years now after my attempt to use it following advice on these forums... (that was a bad choice of exposures for me personally, but as they say, "once burned, twice warned"...)
It's obvious to many now that beyond being powered off the 120 volt 60 Hz power cord, it's emitting a wide spectrum of other signals... I could never tolerate having mine turned on long enough to study it on the RF Spectrum Analyzer. If you had further information on their emission characteristics, why would you withhold it from people, and choose to try to use this issue to attack me?
Some seem to object to the availability of information I've recently offered on the lists as to how people with serious health challenges (Lyme, etc.) can end up with their condition seriously aggravated or deteriorated by exposure to too much of the wrong types of emissions, and that responses are most positive with the least in the way of 'herx's' when power levels are judiciously selected and plasma resonance characteristics are carefully optimized.
Was it my passing along of Linda in California's report of being "thoroughly trashed" by just three sessions on an EM7DV type machine with it's spark gap that set off this venomous attack in response?
I sincerely wish each and every one of you the best of insights and results in your ongoing research - yes, including you!
Be Well!!
Bruce
RE:HERXES AND RF- AN OPEN LETTER TO BRYAN R.
04-06-2006
Dear Bryan, first I want to thank you from the bottom and top of my heart {and all the heart in between} for the incredible work you have done and the dedication that has enabled so many people to empower themselves with self-healing. You have catalyzed a unique and potentially powerful movement for the good of humanity.
If you have been following either of the rife forums lately, you will know that there is a critical discussion and debate continuing regarding the necessity of herxing and the potential dangers of rf carriers in rife machines. I have been trying to prod you into the discussion for months, but after Bruce Stelulson's powerful listings lately I feel your input to the discussion has become critical on the lymes forum.
American's are particularly gullible and uncritical thinkers, which is how we have ended up with the current administration and the untenable situation with big pharma medicine. We tend to believe anything that is in print or on the media as gospel. Because of this, and because you wrote and published such a powerful and dynamic book, you are viewed as larger than life and your word has a gospel feel to it on the forum. When people are really sick with lymes and have finally crossed the threshold where they are finally disillusioned with big pharma poisons and ignorance, they have lost a crucial prop in their sense of reality, that is, that medicine can take care of them if they are ill. In desperation, they grasp anew at a new paradigm to hold onto. Your book has opened the door to that new paradigm and ushered them into a new phase of self-empowerment and healing. For that I am sure we are all enormously grateful.
With that paradigm shift begins a new attachment to a new gospel- the gospel according to Bryan, which I am sure makes you cringe when you read this. But I doubt that anyone who has [religiously] read the forum for a while would disagree with me. This, wanted or not, puts an enormous burden of responsibility on you. You gave birth to this baby, now you have to care for it or it may grow up a monster.
The particular passage in the "gospel" that concerns me, and may in fact ultimately destroy this movement, is your assertion, in my words, Herxing Equals Healing. I have read listings to numerous to count where people , new
this technology, are distressed at their lack of physical distress from rifing, and they equate physical well being with feeling sick. Meanwhile, my friend George has virtually healed himself of crippling lymes in short order with nary a hex reaction, and I have learned to find the amount of rifing that makes me distressed and simply divide the session times by three and spread it out over 3 days and never feel bad, and have deep healing continue.
This led me to a personal conversation with Jeff Garth, inventor and maker of the GB4000, on this subject and he contended that herxing, while it certainly happens, is not a necessity, and told me that Rife's near-gone cancer patients never experienced herxing after he adjusted the proper session timings.
Next I contacted Nenah Sylver and she agreed that herxing is not a necessity.
Meanwhile, because of or by accident Bruce began his intense postings warning of severe reactions to rf and their devastating consequences. In your book you strongly convinced me of the safety of all frequencies we were
likely to use in this work. Since then, besides Bruce, I have heard numerous credible reports of the danger of rf.
My point in this is that Bruce said that the one most devastated rifers was driving himself to illness on the assumption that his distress was a herx and a herx equaled his healing. This idea, as far as I can tell, originated with your book. Actually it probably did not originate there since one person on the forum asked his LLMD of 20 years and he said he
thought herxing was most probably necessary, but possibly not essential. So there is this idea floating out there, and then you inadvertently carved it into stone in your book.
After Bruce's postings, it is clear to me that this notion has potentially LETHAL consequences to this revolutionary movement. I would remind you about Art Linkletter's son who committed suicide under the influence of LSD and
led to the total banning of LSD for even the psychiatric community. Hence psychiatry lost the potent healing tool it has ever known, and now history tells a story of what an evil chemical it was.
All this movement needs is one or a few people, prominent or not, to be clearly injured by rife machines, properly constructed or not, to give the hordes of Mordor their marching orders that could lead to a witch hunt of rifers. The driving force in this danger is the assertion that herxing equals health.
That is where you come in, my friend. Please please please issue a proclamation to the faithful that either strongly defends this assertion with evidence that can be examined or debated, or simply say that hey, it was only my opinion and I may be wrong about it. Then maybe we can begin to reestablish the lymes community on a bedrock of truth and provability. I have seen you make 2 retractions or reassessments since your book came out so I know you are an open and caring individual. But you have let this slide so far and I think it is possibly the Achilles heel of this movement that I
deeply care about. A truly great man admits his errors. Help us out, please.
All my love and respect,
Lee D.
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Reply by Bryan R.
All evidence I have seen indicates that herx reactions are necessary. From my understanding, hundreds of people have regained health (or at least achieved significant improvement) with rife therapy. All those that I have personally spoken with have undergone herx reactions. I can only report what I see, and that is what I see. There are always outliers, people who do not respond normally. This is the case with any treatment. Antibiotics, aspirin, surgery, anything; some people will be (or claim to be) adversely affected. There is such an overwhelming body of evidence that herx reactions
are necessary to get well, that it would take a monumental discovery to change my mind. For example, even in research completely separate from the rife community, herx reactions are known to occur and are known to be necessary. LLMDs are aware of the herx reaction. The pioneer of the Marshall protocol, Trevor Marshall, Ph.D. also expresses his belief that the herx reaction is necessary. I don't have time to dig up all the sources that indicate the herx reaction is necessary. Obviously, herx reactions can be dangerous and should be induced in controlled moderation. Obviously, some reactions may not be herx reactions, but some other type of negative response.
Many healthy people are exposed to electromagnetic fields without acute deleterious effects. Dozens of healthy people I've spoken with can sit or stand in front of a rife machine and not feel anything nor have any type of perceived reaction. Additionally, herx reactions symptoms from rife therapy are extremely similar to herx reactions symptoms from antibiotics. I make this argument in my book.
Of course, the question of rife related side effects is entirely different. Many people get better with rife therapy without ever using RF. For example, the Doug device does not use RF frequencies and it is considered the most effective machine. Personally, I do not know if RF frequencies are 100% safe, and I have never claimed that they are. Rife therapy is experimental and should be viewed as such. I purposefully included a massive and unmistakable disclaimer
in the front of my book indicating that I am not a doctor, the book is based largely on my personal experience and opinion, and that rife therapy is experimental. If people fail to read and internalize that disclaimer, I'm not sure there's anything else I can do or say. I also make it clear that the book is not the final word and is only a presentation of "dynamic research in progress." Again, if people do not "get" this, I'm not sure what else I can do.
Another factor at play here is the many variables involved in people reporting their results. Someone who says RF frequencies hurt them may have some type of rare EMF sensitivity. Just like some people have rare allergies to antibiotics and end up having bizarre reactions. No therapy or school of medical thought is 100% applicable to everyone, period.
I have always encouraged this forum to be completely open and objective. I never block negative information or reports. People are allowed to report whatever they want. Hopefully the truth about rife therapy will emerge independently of me. After all, most of the stuff in my book is not my "baby". Most of the information has been around for over a decade, I just organized it and put it in one place. I believe Americans are not dumb, as was posted in the open letter to me. I believe that such a thought process leads out of democracy and into other forms of government which everyone knows have failed. Our country was founded on personal freedom and responsibility and I choose to believe that these are still true.
People are capable of processing information. If we say they are not capable of that, we make the dangerous judgment that someone must do it for them. I for one, don't ever want someone processing information for me and telling me what to think or do. Likewise, I would never want to be the one processing the information and telling others what to think to. Thus, I live in America. As an American, I believe what makes our country great is freedom of speech and expression, the way God intended us to operate.
Also, as with any treatment, it makes sense to use as little as possible to still get desired effects. If 200 mg of zithromax will cure strep throat, no one in their right mind would take 2000 mg. In my opinion the same goes for rife therapy. It should be used in moderation, only as much as necessary.
There could be a lot more said about this subject, but I believe I have stated clearly in my book and in my posts what I believe. If anyone is wondering what has changed about my beliefs since I published the book, the only significant thing is that I believe the Marshall protocol to be extremely beneficial and worth looking into by all Lyme disease sufferers. And this is not really a venture from what I said in the book: in the book I indicate that the Marshall protocol is possibly the most helpful supportive therapy. Again only my personal opinion, but I believe the Marshall protocol is a breakthrough discovery. If other people want to change their beliefs based on what Bruce has posted, go for it!
I think it is important to dispel the myth that I know everything (if in fact anyone actually feels this way, which I doubt). I am just a guy who received dramatic improvement from rife therapy and the other protocols in my book. Over the years I've talked to many similar people. The book was written to share my experience and my research. Nowhere in the book do I claim to be anyone other than a normal guy sharing my experience and research. I hope this is clear.
Any LLMD will admit that any Lyme disease protocol is experimental. Taking massive doses of antibiotics, at more than twice the recommended dose, for months and months and months, is dangerous and experimental! And can possibly have serious side effects! Such as, ruining your gallbladder necessitating dangerous surgery! A neighbor of mine had a wife who died from a simple gallbladder removal procedure. She did not have Lyme disease; she was perfectly healthy
otherwise. And she died! Medicine is experimental! Lyme disease is a devastating, little-understood disease. I believe people deserve to know their options. People with Lyme disease are grasping at straws. Herbs, antibiotics, ozone, rife, people are trying everything. I simply believe that people should know about rife therapy. No solution is perfect, rife therapy certainly isn't. My personal belief as a Christian is that we live in a fallen world and no solution we find on earth will ever be the ultimate panacea or answer.
I hope this answers any questions out there about me and what I believe and who I am and who I am not. Like always, comments, criticism, and other viewpoints are completely welcome here and always will be.
Bryan
ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES & PATTERN OF RESPONSE:
L. de Jager and L. de Bruyn (Workshop Biological effects of EMFs, Kos 2004) from South Africa have shown that mice exposed continuously to moderate 50 Hz electric and magnetic fields first show enhanced immune function after 2 weeks and then a decreased (they suggest: exhausted) immune function after 14 weeks. At 2/3 of their normal life span the exposed mice started to die (more than controls) of what seemed like "old age".
04-06-2006 js wrote:
>> Bruce, I have talked to Paul on phone several times in the past. I
>> wanted to contact him recently to see how he was doing when I just
>> read your post here. I was concerned for his safety of rife type
>> devices b/c when he got his GB4000 he was rifing like almost all the
>> time, literally. Anytime we'd talk on phone he'd be rifing and he
>> said if he quit rifing all day long like that he'd go down hill quick
>> as he thanked rife for allowing him to get off drugs (like abx) and
>> that he figured it was better to do that much rifing than to be on
>> drugs. I am a big believer in doing just 3 mins per frequency and no
>> more, unless it is a healing frequency or something mentioned in CAFL
>> which recommends longer (like warts for instance). Why increase risk.
>>
>> Last I spoke with Paul he had just received a doug machine and was
>> using his GB4000 as a signal generator for it. He seemed to go right
>> into doing too many frequencies and for longer than 3 mins. In fact,
>> I know he told me that the coil would get so hot that he'd smell
>> fumes. I later read by one of the engineers who builds dougs that the
>> coils insulation is rated up to a certain temperature, after which
>> toxic fumes are released, so not only was Paul potentially overifing
>> himself with the most powerful device out there--the doug--doing too
>> long sessions and too many frequencies in one session--but he was also
>> breathing in toxic fumes.
>>
>> Like I said I was going to call Paul today anyway, before reading your
>> post but I have recently moved and can't find his #. Could you
>> either give me his # backchannel or simply tell the list exactly what
>> he did to himself that was so disasterous? I know you are not a big
>> fan of the herx even though others feel it necessary to make headway,
>> but I fear Paul went beyond a little herxing and has gone downhill as
>> a result. Perhaps he is too sick to get a call from me anyway. Can
>> you explain specifically what has gone on since you are speaking for
>> him and have his permission to do so? Thanks.
>> Jason
>>
[BKS RESPONSE]:
Jason,
I'll email you Paul's number privately.
I asked Paul to write his report exactly in his own words; with his mother's assistance, that may get done. I would rather that the report come straight from him in his own words when it does- I can not fill in all of the details adequately.
You description of him using his equipment too much may be close to the core of the cause of his deterioration- he also told me he had run it for extended periods.
So I want to clarify: I'm not trying to say that the specific equipment Paul used is 'bad' - that is not a valid conclusion or way of trying to summarize his situation at all.
I would instead say that, based on advice Paul had received : ("you need to herx heavily to make progress") Paul likely used it inappropriately, and that when used inappropriately, the result was that he hurt himself badly.... but that he
misinterpreted his results as 'doing good for himself' until he was in deep serious trouble. Working intentionally to produce heavy Herxes, he became less tolerant of the exposures and rapidly became more and more hyper- sensitized...
all the while mistakenly thinking he was doing the right thing.
I hope to have more information soon. If you get more of the story that will be helpful to others, please do pass it along.
I advised Paul to avoid using any equipment for a while, and to work on minimizing the various environmental stressor factors, while considering relocating into a healthier environment if possible. He needs the support of family, however, so following through on some of this may be challenging for him. More later.
Be Well!!
Bruce
message on 04-07-2006 From Luigi F.
I own a Bruce Stenulson made dual tube plasma EM+, a model 6C. Frex15 is used with a Sony Vaio laptop to create the frequencies.The laptop's sound output jack is connected to the input port on the 6C which uses the laptop's signals to process the produced frequencies and excite the plasma tubes.
A zap session normally lasts all night: I set the laptop with the needed frequencies and let it and the EM+ do their stuff until morning. I normally zap during the daytime as well. I keep the tubes about three feet away from the center of my body, so about six feet from either of my extremities, and I usually also rest the Neon tube on my mid-section at least once a day during daytime hours to get up close and personal with the bladder cancer. In order to attack the cancer from as many sides as possible, I also take Paw Paw capsules.
Plus I have come to realize that cancer is as individual as its victims, which means that Rifing for "cancer, general" is not enough. One has to use Rife technology to attack the specific type of cancer (in my case carcinoma) as well as the parasites related to it (for bladder cancer that would be schistosoma).
Let's also not forget that there is likely additional damage to the body both from the cancer as well as from other causes.
My hypothalamus gland and my colon were not working as they should have, and this needed addressing to strengthen the body.
The advice of a naturopath (one experienced with Rife ideally) who can pinpoint this damage and suggest in which order to attack what is absolutely priceless. I have for example just gone through surgery which had become a matter of emergency since a stent (the next to last vestige of my cancer) had gotten infected. The allopaths wanted me to take Ciproflaxin and Hydrocodone. The naturopath had me Rife and take Olive Leaf extract and some sort of liquid for the pain. The infection and the pain were gone in ONE DAY.
Luigi
Using GB4000 as signal source for the 8CE EM+ , 6C EM+ ;
Other options: Avoiding 'frequency scatter'
A list member wrote:
> If I was buying a EMEM device I sure would consider Bruce Stenulson's
> SYSTEM 8CE EM+. It looks like one of the most versatile devices out
> there. This will be the next one I purchase. Just my opinion. I just
> wonder if my GB-4000 can be used with it as a signal generator?
> D B
D B,
Yes, the GB4000 can easily be used as an external signal source for the 8CE; the multi-stage signal processing circuitry in the 6C & 8CE EM+ was designed to accept input from a wide variety of frequency sources, from computer sound systems running various software (Including FREX 15) to the GENY-2 generator cards while they were available, the Semoia Hammerhead, F100 series frequency generators, etc... So it can use the GB-4000 audio output mode, with the output amplitude of the GB4000 turned down.
All of the actual signal processing is done within the 8CE to allow optimization of the plasma resonance dynamics independently of the characteristics of external signal source; all you need is a reasonably accurate frequency- an output matching what you think you have programmed in. Although I have not tested one personally, I would expect that The GB4000 should be very capable in this respect.
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The F100 series devices from Patrick Robin (F125 & F165 models currently available) are excellent devices which can be used to drive the 6C / 8CE, as far as frequency accuracy and the versatility of the software which controls them. Their ability to be programmed to generate the 'Scalar Harmonic' background frequencies which Jeff Sutherland developed may be unique at this time.
The scalar harmonics are derived and synthesized 'on the fly' based upon each primary frequency being run, and change instantaneously as the primary frequency changes, so the scalar harmonic background frequency will always be a supportive harmonic of the primary frequency. Jeff Sutherland prefers and recommends the use of the F165 ($995), which is capable of generating two scalar harmonics simultaneously at two precise harmonic relationships to the primary frequencies being sequenced. For those of us who are continually financially challenged, the F125 ($495), which can produce one scalar harmonic background frequency, may well be very suitable.
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Computer Sound Systems running software such as FREX, NCH Toner, etc.
When using software runing on Computers with the output coming from their sound systems to drive any resonant frequency induction device, many researchers report very good results; (see Luigi's report of recovery from 'terminal' kidney cancer on the RIFE list for one recent example of using FREX 15 with a 6C EM+.)
But since computer sound systems were designed to produce 'pleasing sounds', their strength lies in producing clean sine waves; so the sine wave outputs of quality sound cards are observed in testing to be stable and very usable.
When asked / commanded to produce square waves- especially at higher frequencies approaching 10,000 Hz, they fail miserably [ as observed in my testing of a SoundBlaster Live! MP3 card, as well as a couple of other systems.) Specifically, they fail miserably in relation to the 'pulse repetition intervals'. This can be observed on a good oscilloscope, as the waveforms are observed to vary as much as plus or minus 20% to 30%! The successive waveform leading edges literally 'jump all over the place' on the oscilloscope screen- [not what we need!-], varying in "pulse interval" by a large percentage...
This effectively results in an unstable 'shotgun' pattern so wide that the primary frequency is hardly there- essentially a 40% scatter. Oh, yes, if you set it for 10,000 Hz / (10,000 pulses per second), a simple frequency counter may say that there are 10,000 pulses being generated between the beginning and the end of each second, but the interval between those pulses is unacceptably irregular.
What do you do? Simply DO NOT try to use square waves generated by a computer sound system at higher frequencies! Use sine wave output instead- you will actually be producing the pulses at the consistent intervals which are needed.
If you are running a very basic machine which has to have a square wave signal from the computer in order to run, you can do a couple of things:
1: Use only much lower harmonics of all frequencies; the irregularities are far less noticeable on frequencies below 1000 Hz, and may still be fairly usable up to about 2000 Hz on some sound cards / systems. But understand that some 'scatter' may always be present when trying to use a square wave output from a computer sound system... it's simply not tightly on the frequency you think you have asked it to run. Why is this significant? 'Frequency scatter' has been reported by some researchers to result in more 'collateral adverse reactions'. They tested this by starting with precise DNA derived frequencies, and testing with both wide and narrow 'converges' programmed into an F100 device. Their findings indicate that when the 'converge' was set beyond a very narrow band, that the observed 'adverse collateral reactions' increased substantially. When very tight converges close around very specific target frequencies were used, the observed 'adverse collateral reactions' were very minimal or non-existent.
('Frequency scatter' form a square wave generated on a computer sound system is similar to a *very wide* uncontrolled 'converge', within the context of this report.)
2: Get a 'wave shaper' device to convert the cleaner sine waves into the clean square waves you need, external to the computer, and use it's output to drive your device. (I believe Dave Felt offers such a wave shaper.)
Since the multi-stage signal processing circuitry I designed for the 6C /8CE EM+ many years ago was designed to process sine waves, such a 'wave shaper' is not needed, and should not be used with these systems.
More later as time allows. I wish each of you the very best of insights and results in your ongoing research!
Be Well!!
Bruce
"SCALARS?"
Ken Uzzell wrote:
> "Some RIFE researchers claim scalar waves are produced by plasma
transmitters, these are special unmeasurable frequencies, and
currently exist as a type of hidden (occult) technology. These
scalar waves may travel faster than light and I would think be
effected by the frequency generating the plasma transmission,
hence they elude our measurement to date. If this is so, then
we have a most interesting technology here that is still on its
way down the birth canal."
All plasma tubes can be understood to generate scalars on some level... understand that it might well be *impossible* to keep them from doing so with today's approaches. But the generation of too much in the way of scalars can be unbalancing and disruptive energetically. (Uh, been there, did that, got the tee-shirt... (grin) As Monroe in Houston used to say all the time, "Dont Do This!" [ Big grin!]
Since, as Ken points out, these are 'unmeasurable' aspects from the perspective of the conventional scientific community, we know that this places this aspect of plasma dynamics 'outside the box', into the arena of quantum dynamics.
Since 'getting the tee-shirt', I've become far more cautious. I've worked with feedback and guidance from some very perceptive medical intuitives in evaluating response to scalars and quantum aspects; while another stage in our collaborative research project is scheduled for the summer of 2006, and no material will be prematurely released, I'll offer this:
The principle of "More is Less" ,and of "Quality, not Quantity" definitely come into consideration when venturing into this arena of scalars and quantum interface aspects. For those interested in pursuing this research topic further, I suggest you might start by studying the concepts of 'intrinsic data fields' which are utilized in the operation of the ABPA for insights; as you expand your viewpoint to encompass the principals involved, you'll likely come to realize that it has virtually nothing to do with 'power' as it's commonly understood...
I wish everyone the best of insights and results in your ongoing research!
Be Well!!
Bruce
[Rife] EMF, Cars, and Diesel Engines
I found this article while searching on the subject:
Rowena
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EMF Control for Cars http://www.citlink.net/~bhima/emf.htm
An emf sensitive lady has written to me, who has also found new freedom with an older Mercedes. She could only use a bicycle before!
Why You Want to Be Inside an Older Diesel Car, Though Not Behind One
by an ES Engineer
I used to be sick for a week from riding in a car. I never knew how much was "road fumes" or EMF. Now I'm getting around much better, even driving to our ski area, 1.5 hours away. I'm not a wreck afterwards, as long as I avoid nasty places. Soon the ice will melt and I'll be a regular commuter to the mountain lakes for kayaking. I can't tell you how wonderful this new freedom with my diesel car is.
The gasoline-ignition engine has spark plugs to ignite the fuel-air mixture. The ignition (spark) system is a tremedous source of broad spectrum (across many different frequencies) radio frequency noise, as well as lower frequency magnetics. Because of the grounding of the car body, and the use of the car body as part of the electrical system, considerable electrical emissions exist inside the car. The alternator is a strong source of emissions also, both low frequency magnetics and up to 1 megahertz from the diode (rectification of AC to DC) noise, when charging. The alternator must be used for normal operations, as the ignition (spark) system requires constant current. (And frankly, with all that electrical noise from the ignition system, why not have it on.)
The diesel engine with mechanical fuel injection has no spark plugs at all. The fuel-air mixture is self igniting (chemical reaction, no electrical spark) from the very high compression. Thus, the normal operation of the engine does not generate electric or magnetic emissions, and it does not require any electrical energy to maintain it's operation.
Since the diesel engine does not require electrical power to operate, the alternator is not required, and can be disconnected for normal daily use. Over 2 hours of headlight operation off the battery is possible, safely, as
diesels normally have enormous batteries for cold weather cranking. Now the only other electrical emissions are the intermittent use of electrical systems such as window motors, etc. Avoid the use of the air/ fan motors. Any brushed DC motor is a terrible source of broad sprectrum RF as well as low frequency magnetics.
Mercedes diesel sedans up to 1985 have mechanical fuel injection and are resonably affordable since diesels are not as popular now. I have a 1985 300D model, with turbocharger. Turboed engines are often good for 300,000 miles. Non turbo engines up to 500,000. The alternator can be disconnected at the passenger side front fender well junction block. Also disconnect the power to the radio, they are a bad source of emissions from the digital display, even when "off." Either pull the fuse, or unplug the connection at the radio itself.
YES, I still dread diesel exhaust, and can't stay behind one on the road. I keep the engine very clean, repair all leaks in the engine compartment, and keep the windows up until I'm under way. I've read about conversions for running on used fry oil, they say you then smell like a McDonalds! (I've no plans for such a conversion.)
(Rowena, on the other hand, would delight in such a conversion!)
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and:
Radiation and vehicles http://www.ghchealth.com/emf-protection2.php Automobiles, planes, buses, trains and motorcycles are also recognized as powerful generators and receivers of electromagnetic pollution. Highways
often parallel power lines and other sources of heavy radiation. The electrical system of a vehicle also generates detrimental electromagnetic fields. In all vehicles, in order to drive the spark plugs, the coil increases the voltage rating to approximately 18000 volts. Furthermore, static electricity, created by the rotation of the tires against the brake
drums and the pistons sets up a magnetic field which can detrimentally affect the body's mental, physical, and nervous system, resulting in the driver's reaction time, blank spots in his/her ability to see and hear and fatigue and drowsiness. The consequences of these reactions can be devastating. The use of cell phones in cars is another source of
electro-magnetic stress on the body.
Fatigue and drowsiness, yes, not nice on a three hour trip to the city! - R
IONIC "DETOX" FOOT BATHS?
nancy wrote:
>> off topic - has anyone used a iconic foot bath for removing toxins ??? i
>> see several for sale , testimonies and lots of discolored water...lol.
>> just wondering if anyone has had 1st experience with them and if they
>> are just a hoax. thanks
Virtually all foot bath "detox" systems use an electrical current applied to two stainless steel pates; this erodes the stainless steel on the positively charged plate (referred to as the 'anode'), causing metallic ions with a positive charge
to be freed / driven off the plate into the water.
The other plate, connected to the negative power supply, is referred to as the 'cathode'; it contributes only (negatively charged) electrons into the footbath water.
The stainless steel plates are known to rapidly erode from this process- plates need to be replaced often because of this. It's similar to how a basic colloidal silver maker functions, and how electroplating is accomplished; but in this case, since the anode is stainless steel, the positively charged metallic ions which are freed into the water are composed of from 14% to 16% Nickel (depending upon the specific alloy of the stainless steel being used.) The balance is predominantly Iron, with various proportions of other metals, depending again upon which alloy is being used.
Nickel is *HIGHLY* toxic, and is also easily absorbed through the skin; for people who are already experiencing health challenges, the exposure likely constitutes an added challenge. If you do a Google search on "Nickel Toxicity", the results will likely frighten you badly... as they should.
If, perhaps, the user is also 'grounded' while using the foot bath, then their body is charged to attract the positively charged metallic ions; this results in a dynamic referred to as 'electro-transportation', increasing the absorption rate through the skin of the feet.
While we also know that positively charged metallic Nickel ions will readily react to other chemicals present in the water, so that a modest proportion of the positively charged Nickel ions will remain at their full positive charge potential for very long, the important fact is that toxic nickel is in the foot bath, either as Nickel ions, or as Nickel compounds.... This may not be one of the better things you can do for yourself...
Does this really sound like a 'detox' system to you? (grin) This might more appropriately fall under the heading of 'Bad Science'.... and a revealing detail that becomes obvious as you research the various marketers of these systems is
that there is a lot of shameless copying and duplicating of specific wording that is used on multiple web sites in their marketing presentations...
Be Well- and Be Careful!!
Bruce
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Most often, ordinary tap water consisting of a constantly changing mix of hot and cold waters is used for the spa liquid. This allows contamination of different elements and ratios depending upon the rate of flow of the domestic supply, water heating technique, electrical charge of the Earth and the atmosphere plus whatever other contamination is in the layers of the skin and under the toenails. Combined, these could indeed result in many chemical variables and the reactivity of the fluid shifts accordingly.
Complex interactions may occur and cause different colors to dominate the mix at the end of a session. They do not, however, represent any medical conditions. This information is straight from the inventor. I spoke to him directly about this subject. Some sort of cultish belief system has established itself in the minds of users that the colors of the water indicate an internal reality or illness and nothing could be further from the truth, 'Bubbles, flakes and patterns in the water'
mean little...dead skin cells, oils and other elements may extract themselves from the skin of the feet and toenail/ contaminants and change the contents of the water. Have you ever had a culture run from what lives on your skin and nails? Incredible and complex and some of it downright disgusting! LOL
The BEFE or Q2 technology may act as a biological field booster to allow the meridians and energetic systems to gain better balance. The body may detox on its own through the normal channels of elimination: skin/sweat, liver, kidneys, lungs, bowels etc. at a later time, given that such native bioenergy could have been refreshed by the general interface of the field of the Q2 orb with that of human energy field or HEF.
The 'Body Electric' must do the actual work it was intended to perform. There is no 'magic' in this at all, no mystery.
It is not a cure-all, built for everyone to use freely. The technology is but another tool to get Life Processes going again in the right direction.
Hope that helps.
Best regards,
Kevin
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