TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS: Rife List, etc.

Re-edited by Bruce K. Stenulson 10-30-98 (BKS)

These technical discussions took place in early 1998 primarily on the Rife List, and were collected & posted to my web site by 3-14-98. I've taken the liberty of editing out some things, correcting spellings etc, and deleting items as appropriate. (Editor's prerogative!) [Grin]

Within these pages are a lot of technical details on Zapper design and Contact / pad type resonant frequency device output capability.

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: converting your zapper to 12-15 volts]

A List Member wrote:

> Hi Bruce...given that I already use a friend"s R/B device & Dr. Beck's 2 devices daily for several

> weeks now...would it be useful now or at some point to purchase the Zapper LTS+.

I'll try to give you a bit of my understanding on this; I'm working on trying to place all of the various frequency devices into some sort of perspective, a listing of:

"This one works this way, is set this way, affects this, does that"... "Next one does this , effects that, etc." I wish we all had this information 3 years ago; I'll work on this info to present on the website as I can get it all reasonably accurately correlated - it's just not yet there. In the mean time, some thoughts...

The true Rife Bare devices are modulated to resonate on a particular precise frequency in the lower range between (0Hz) and 10,000HZ (=10KHz). With a fast rise time, harmonics are generated at multiples of the modulation frequency.

Results with the R/B may depend on being directly on a specific modulation frequency, but are reported to be very dramatic for that specific [condition, or mallady, for lack of a better word.]

Translation: If you know the frequency, the MOR, for what you want to hit, you get results - possibly very dramatic results.

(Please let me clarify that I am not operating a Plasma device at this time, so I am not speaking from an operator's standpoint. This is just a brief "Each of these does similar but different things, in similar but different ways" type of response for now.)

Beck's devices each were designed to do specific things also.

Hulda Clark's research resulted in very specific, much higher frequency listings for many specific parasites. The excerpts from her book, "The Cure For All Diseases" on my website are but a very brief into; if you do not have a copy of it yet, track one down!

The true Clark Zapper circuit design operates between 20KHz and 40KHz, and also produces harmonics at multiples of that. The Zapper's DC Square wave output appears to "induce a resonance into the body" when you are making good contact with the hand pieces. It is a "CONTACT" induction device, also referred to as a pad device. Curiously, it's reported effectiveness against a widely varying array of pathogens is not tied to operation at a precise frequency, but rather to the DC Square wave output waveform - fast rise from 0 to the Positive voltage, abruptly back to zero, etc.

I have built out a page, showing digital photos of the Zapper LTS+ output waveforms (on my classic 10MHz oscilloscope) from both the high and low current outputs (of the Zapper LTS+), first unloaded, then as picked up with a high impedance probe from points on my body while in use. Interpretation of these O'scope shots will not be offered immediately, but rather left for input from everyone who cares to dare offer their comments. I don't have my analysis "ready for prime time" yet at all, but I figure that those without at least access to an oscilloscope may appreciate this much graphic info.

I presently do not have access to a spectrum analyzer; wish I did!

(Anyone have a Spectrum Analyzer they're not presently using, that they would consider donating or loaning me for a month or two? I miss not having access to one, after having worked with one quite a ways back in the past. Costly devices, but it never hurts to ask... I may pursue seeking a research grant in the future to make more of this in depth observation possible... any suggestions?)

"Pad" devices also are contact induction devices, but usually are set to produce either specific Rife frequencies, or specific Clark Frequencies. Clark's earlier work written of in her books was with SINE WAVES, which had to be generated quite precisely on frequency to be disruptive to the targeted pathogen.

The relationships between these two completely different frequency lists should be observable in research with the spectrum analyzer and other equipment; no one has as yet offered the correlation information that I am aware of, and I expect that if this was understood more clearly, many of you would be able to more effectively apply all of the various Rife / Clark frequency therapies.

(I've wandered beyond the subject a bit...)

The R/B Radiant Plasma devices in effect "broadcast" to induce a similar resonance in all of those within it's field (which is rather extensive.)

This induced resonance, however accomplished by any of these devices, is what achieves the disruptive effect on various pathogens.

The simple beauty of working with the true Hulda Clark Zapper devices, is that they are reported by many to disrupt a wide array of pathogens, WITHOUT having to first identify the pathogen and determine it's resonant frequency, or know the specific M.O.R. to apply. [Zap 'em now, worry about maybe identifying them later!]

Clark relates MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) to underlying bodily toxicity /exposure / pollution problems which also result in a person being much more susceptible to parasite infestation in many organs, even the brain!

Dr.Philpott's "Brain Allergies" work is also interesting in this regard, as is Becker's "The Body Electric". Dr. Gary Null's "No More Allergies" is the 4th on my "essential reading" list for MCS. (I'll do reviews on the other three on my website when time allows; I suggest you get them.)

I would strongly suggest that Zappers are NOT to be SUBSTITUTED for known effective R/B or Beck applications. Use them as a COMPLEMENTARY application.

My approach, which has helped with MCS, is not coherently laid out yet; I'll share all I can, given time. For myself , briefly, some of what I used are these:

* Zap the parasites! Daily at first, every 3 days since. "Maintenance"

* Colloidal Silver also used, moderate amounts

* Eliminate / Avoid known / possible "Sensitizers" from your environment / diet

* I built a blend of 21 herbs, specificly to support MY body; 2 each 00 caps/day

* Nutritional supplements, additional herbs/minerals/enzymes/etc. (No time now to elaborate.)

* Air Purifier / ion generator to improve indoor air quality

* No carpet in our entire house; tile, wood, throw rugs

* Unscented shampoos, detergents, soaps, cleaning products, personal care items

* Many items stored out of the house

* Vent cabinet used to work with any even slightly toxic substances; solder flux fumes, alcohol, etc.

* Avoid chlorine / bromine, etc. completely (past exposure=intolerance)

* Minimize exposure to auto exhaust; - 'brain allergy' effects

I'll eventually elaborate extensively on all of this on the website, but I type slowly, and writing /composing this coherently all takes me a lot of time.

Questions and comments always welcome!

Bruce K. Stenulson

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Technical discussions I've participated in with members of the Rife List:

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: converting your zapper to 12-15 volts]

Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998

From: Trevor Wilson

you wrote:

> Hi all,

> While I have read about zappers and I am a tech type, I haven't seen an

>explanation as to why fast rise times are important. I gather not everyone

>on this list feels that fast rise times are important. I also realize a

>fast rise time gives more harmonics but where did the idea of more harmonics

>being better come from originally? It seems like it might be a good idea I

>am just trying to understand this better.

> Is there any benefit to the idea of frequency hopping? I know that

>would be technically challenging. I only bring it up because of the odd

>results with the Philadelphia experiment. Maybe jittering the frequency is

>the similar.

OK, for my 2 cents worth. The reason for fast rise times is several fold. A good 'clean' edge indicates that the harmonics are related to the fundamental. Anything else indicates that insufficient high order harmonics are available, or worse, artifacts unrelated to the fundamental may be present. This could pose a serious risk. Although I suspect at the low-ish levels used by most 'Zappers', and in particular Gary Gear's 5 volt version, this may pose less of a problem. BE aware that it is likely that low voltage Zappers (probably) do not have much of an MOR type effect, and thus frequency stability and other issues may not be as important. I have never experimented with a Zapper (but have conversed with those very experienced in such areas), so my opinion should be taken as such. An opinion only.

Fast rise times are much less of an issue with B/R devices, since the tube itself seems to provide the high order harmonics required for MOR effect. As for where the idea came from, I'm not sure. Perhaps Rife himself, or possibly Crane. Others may be able to offer more information on this issue.

I have experimented with frequency jittering some years ago. The results were less than impressive. I now choose to use rock solid frequency sources only. It has been convincingly demonstrated to me on several occasions that allowing the frequency to drift as little as 1% can render the device less

than efficacious. Again others may have other opinions. I suspect most B/R device and pad devices (as distinct from Zappers) users will attest to the importance of frequency stability and accuracy.

It is important at this point to realize that Zappers and Rife devices (both Pad and Bare types) are quite different. They all have places in the market and as with most things in life, you tend to get pretty much what you pay for.

Cheers, Trevor Wilson

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Subject: Re: High voltage option in Zapper LTS+

Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:11:58 -0000

From: Gary Gear

"Beck's blood purifier runs at higher voltages, higher currents and a much lower frequency. All of these things work in the direction of minimizing the body's bulk capacitance effect that dominates with typical Zappers"....

..."But as you go up in frequency, you begin to see that the current flow during the on portion of the pulse takes on the form of a spike, closer to a classic impulse response. Clearly the bulk body capacitance is having an effect. The medical research available in this area says that if you pulse

the waveform at a significant frequency, above several hundred Hz, that polarity doesn't matter, nor does any net DC current flow. [? not my observation : BKS] Most notably are the comments by Dr. Robert Becker in his studies of bone regeneration.

There, a net current flow in the myelin sheath in one direction during the first few weeks aids in bone regeneration, but after a few weeks, the current flow direction has to be reversed if regeneration is to continue.

He then goes on to say that if you pulse the current, direction no longer matters and bone healing continues at the accelerated rate throughout the healing cycle. Later he suggests that pulsing the current is more effective than DC current flow in either direction (naturally reversing when healing reaches the stage where it wants to reverse). He is also the first to discover that the current flow in the myelin sheath is an organic semiconducting process. In any given limb, conduction is preferential in one direction for sensory nerves while at the same time conduction is preferential in the other direction for motor nerves. As you can see, here is where the conduction process becomes quite non-linear as I have stated before.

Further, there in lies a critical clue to how the Rife effect is working. Semiconducting processes are inherently photosensitive. In non-organic semiconductors, light on a diode will produce a potential essentially equal to the band gap energy. In silicon 0.6 volts. The Rife devices that are plasma coupled undoubtedly do the same thing, thus a B/R unit will introduce voltage pulses in the myelin sheath in one direction during part of the cycle and the other direction the other part of the cycle. Since the myelin sheath preferentially conducts in one direction for motor nerves and the other for sensory nerves, we have now a very interesting situation.

Becker also goes on to show that magnetic fields are critical to the regeneration process and shows how there exists semiconducting layers in the bone structure such that when the bone is flexed, magnetic fields are created that stimulate bone growth preferentially in one direction over the

other. This explains why athletes that continually stress their bones preferentially in one direction, see a strengthening in their bone structure to support that non-symmetrical stress. Well, semiconducting processes produce crossed magnetic fields, commonly known as the Hall effect. Becker attributed the accelerated bone healing through electromagnetic stimulus to the hall effects generated by the semiconducting processes taking place in the myelin sheath.

Becker is not alone in these findings, but his work is most readily available to list members because they are published in book form. Difficult reading but readily available through any book store."...

..."Five Zapper users so far have suffered broken bones. One was a car accident and the person has no quantifiable history of broken bones, but the other 4 typically break bones at least several times a year; cowboys that work all day horseback. If you ride horses, broken bones come with the territory. All four have reported bone healing 2 to 10 times faster because of the Zapper. This finding would not surprise Dr. Becker at all. It is precisely what he predicted.

Others in the medical profession have reported that low voltage stimulation of the myelin sheath has a quantifiable positive effect in stimulating the immune system. It seems at this juncture that the mechanistic processes are either identical or very nearly the same. Time and experience will

tell, but clearly Zappers are doing way more good than harm.

Empirically we know that Zappers work best when held in the hands or attached to the feet. Zapper paddles placed other places on the body seem to not do much [at 5 volts, according to Gary: BKS]. Supposition is that the long runs of nerve fibers that exist in the arms and legs are integral to what the Zapper is doing. Just another data point.

Beck's Blood Purifier operated at a low enough frequency and high enough voltages, that these semiconducting processes don't dominate what is taking place. I therefore concluded that the energy levels are quite probably above kT, and the organic semiconducting elements in the myelin sheath completely break down and everything looks like a resistor. I don't know this, but seems logical at this juncture.

You can begin to see why I feel that all of the sub kT technologies we discuss here are closely interrelated. I re-posted your note to me publically to the list because I felt that my response would be of interest to more than a few on the list. To that end, I hope you don't mind.

If you search the archives, you will find that I have taken a great deal of heat for my postings to the list. Most of my comments regarding what is happening electrically in the body come from other's work, not my own.

Heat comes largely from an underlying suspicion that my statements are marketing motivated rather than scientifically motivated. Not true, these are not my findings, they are the findings of the best medical researchers we have available today. My laboratory work is naturally my own and the

case reports I pass on from my FlightGear Zapper users are real. Science is science, marketing is marketing, politics is politics, religion is religion, and jealousy is jealousy. I contend that mostly science and only a moderation of marketing is all that belongs on this list. I suspect that the more intellectual contingent on this list is largely in agreement with me.

Best regards, Gary Gear

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On the concept of the "LOW TECH SWEEP" and the evolution of the ZAPPER LTS+ by BKS

RE: Clark Zapper circuit from "The Cure For All Diseases"

The main timing capacitor called for in Hulda Clark's book is the .0047uF ; ceramic disk caps work, but drift on the frequency quite a bit with small changes in temperature; monolithic caps are better in regards to temperature stability (- other types might be even more stable; I've tested these recently.). This isn't really an issue with the CLARK zapper design; it was to run at anywhere between 20KHz and 40KHz, but there was not a more specific frequency mentioned in the book.

With a regular ceramic disk cap, .0047 and the specified 3.9K resistor, several zappers I've built all run in the 25 to 30 KHz range at room temperature - the warmer they are, the higher the frequency

drifts. (Duty cycle looks like about 57% on, 43% off on the oscilloscope.)

By building the zapper circuitry into one of the hand pieces, (rather than in a separate box as is commonly seen) and using the ceramic disc capacitor, a frequency sweep effect may be serendipitously produced, as the hand piece warms through each 7 minute session, causing the

frequency to drift gradually higher... the harmonics said to be generated by the square wave would then sweep through a slight range of frequencies, rather than staying more or less on one... I have some preliminary data on the sweep possible with warm hands, just to give those interested an idea of the extent of the sweep. One zapper built as described above starts at about 28KHz; as the housing is warmed by my hand over 7 minutes, the frequency gradually climbs to 33.5KHz, a sweep

of 5.5KHz.

I got started thinking on this aspect after Turf commented, on his zapper tips page, on one zapper he built working well on colds, while others did not... etc. Maybe the Zapper frequency isn't quite as

non-critical as is represented; in any event, I'm theorizing that a sweep of a portion of the frequency range between 20KHz and 40KHz could in fact be beneficial... it certainly shouldn't decrease the

effectiveness, and may well allow the harmonics generated to sweep across a larger part of the spectrum... (This is an early theory; I welcome feedback on this concept; or better yet, try it in your own designs if you are comfortable modifying the zapper circuitry slightly.

Can intentionally taking advantage of this negative temperature coefficient of the ceramic disc capacitors produce a more effective zapper? For those of you into designing your own zappers, wanting to emphasize this effect even further, consider incorporating a negative temperature coefficient THERMISTOR into the circuitry; in other words, replace the 3.9K resistor with a thermistor & a (1K) resistor in series...

I have NTC thermistors, nominally rated at 3.3K at 25 degrees C ; I just tested the sweep: with a certain .005uF ceramic disc cap in the breadboard, the circuit is running (room temperature) at 22KHz. By pinching the ceramic disc between my thumb & index finger to warm it, the frequency will climb to 29KHz and stabilize there in about 45 seconds; in free air, it takes about a minute for the frequency to drop back close to the starting frequency.

From 22KHz, pinching the thermistor causes a rise to 33KHz in about 45 seconds. If both are warmed simultaneously, a rise from the initial 22KHz to 37.5KHz was seen; quite a sweep.

The next step I tried was to build the capacitor and thermistor into the outer top edge of the PVC cap, running 3 wires back to the circuit board inside. (CyA glue mounts them into shallow indentations carved in the plastic; holes routed through where the metal tube won't touch the wires.) In this location, you can lay your warm thumb against them while holding the hanb piece to gain a larger frequency sweep effect; very low tech, & very effective. When glued against the PVC cap, the

frequency will rise about 10KHz in 90 seconds for my generally warm hands. It takes over 2 minutes after I remove my thumb to have the frequency drop back about 85% of what it had risen.

If in fact you think that this sweep effect is worth trying, the method is quite simple: when you first turn it on, lay your thumb in the Thermistor & capacitor for 1-1/2 minutes;

move your thumb off, letting the components cool & the frequency to decrease for 2 minutes;

repeat one more cycle; your 7 minutes is up. (Rest 20 minutes ; repeat for 7 minutes; rest 20 minutes; third 7 minute application.)

You should understand that this is an Experimental technique for use of an Experimental device, and as always, none of this should be considered as medical advice; for that, the FDA wants us to remind all of you to consult with a licensed medical practitioner....

Bruce K. Stenulson

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Thomas Prucha wrote:

This is the hand piece connected to the output of the IC on pin 3; as you may know, electrons move from the positive hand piece, through your body (when operated as a zapper), and out to the negative hand piece. There should be no problem with metals from the chromed housing entering your system, if I understand the process correctly.

What we now call "conventional current flow" was thought to be from positive to negative. This is why all of the electronic symbol arrows such as the diode go in the direction they do. In modern electronics they now teach that "electron flow" is from negative to positive. In most electronic

circuitry it really doesn't matter if you use conventional current flow or electron flow, all of the principals and formulas work the same. However, here we are talking about the possible transference of metals into our bodies due to electron flow so I guess it might matter. Tom

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Subject: metallic ion movement through an electrolyte

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

Thomas,

Your info on electron flow is correct, but the process of metallic ion movement through an electrolyte may need to be explained a bit for a better understanding: it's how charged ions act when a charge/ current source is applied to an electrolyte solution (in our application, a person's bodily fluids) that is what we need to understand to know the rest of the story.

I've worked with moving metallic ions through an electrolyte solution in electroplating operations. An ANODE of the metal you want to plate is hooked to the POSITIVE supply lead, and inserted into the electrolyte (usually a plating bath). The OBJECT you want to move the metallic ions to (electroplate) is hooked to the NEGATIVE supply lead. (I use a lab grade metered power supply for this purpose.)

To quote from "The Electroplater's Handbook" by C.W. AMMEN (Published by TAB Books, ISBN 0-8306-0310-7 ) P.21 : [example of a copper plating electrolyte solution]

...... "What happens is simple. When we apply or pass a current through our [electrolyte] solution of various (+) and (-) ions, the positively charged ions (cations)(in this example Cu++ and H+) will move to the cathode, which is negative, where they discharge or gain the negative electrons that are missing as ions. Remember this is what made them + ions in the first place. When a Cu++ ion reaches the cathode, it picks up the two negative particles [electrons] it needs to convert it from a

copper ion to a copper atom. the H+ ion picks up it's missing electron and becomes a hydrogen gas atom [hence, the hydrogen gas bubbles generated at the cathode in this type of exchange reaction.]

"What happens at the anode [in the example in the book] (the copper plate which is positive)? looking at the negative ions in our electrolyte, we have SO4-- and OH- ions. These, being negatively charged

ions, will travel to the positive anode [when a charge or current is applied.]

When these negative ions reach the anode, the SO4-- may combine with the copper anode to form copper sulfate. Some may be discharged and react with the water to form oxygen gas molecules and sulfuric acid.

What is happening at the anode is that some of the SO4-- is combining with the copper anode to form CuS)4 with theOH- which have been neutralized. So the Anode is busy MAKING SULFURIC ACID, and the CuSO4 is replenishing the copper ions in the solution [electrolyte] to replace the copper ions that are being deposited as metalic copper at the cathode. In our case, the copper anode is shrinking, and the copper [plating layer on the] cathode is growing. In other words, we are electroplating

copper from a copper anode to a copper cathode.

You could substitute, in place of the copper cathode [or the copper anode], an object made of another metal (tin, silver, iron, etc.) The action will be the same and the object at the minus pole (cathode) will become coated with the [ metal from the anode.] "

Please refer to the book for further clarification if desired.

I hope this clears up the matter a bit; yes, electrons move from the negative to the positive, while positively charged metallic ions generated at the positive (anode) are moved into the electrolyte ( in

this case your blood / bodily fluids) while being drawn towards the negatively charged cathode.

If I'm going to have the possibility of metallic ions moving off the positively charged hand piece, into my system, I'd rather have silver ions than copper.

Thanks for posting this comment; it's not a subject many would otherwise have explained.

Bruce K. Stenulson

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Subject: Re: Zapper Details - Bottom Line

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

As the one post explained, Metallic ions are positively charged, and move towards the negatively charged pole / hand piece; I watch it happening when electroplating fine silver onto copper. The ANODE, attached to the Positive Supply, gives up metallic ions, which move through the plating

solution as described, ending up converting into metallic atoms attached to the Negative supply, where they GAIN ELECTRONS. Yes, electrons do move from the negative pole to the positive; but metallic ions, with a positive charge, in effect move the other direction.

Hope this clarifies this process. In summary, the negative hand piece gives up electrons and generates Hydrogen gas molecules; the positive hand piece (if made from copper or silver especially) can produce metallic ions and compounds, which can be absorbed through your skin. The recommendation of wrapping the hand pieces in damp paper towels to promote conductivity is a good recommendation, as it also keeps the copper from direct contact with the skin. I'm unable to say whether or not the paper towels are very effective in minimizing exposure to copper absorption through the skin.

I personally have some problems with chemical sensitivity; no doubt toxic metals accumulations from past occupational exposures; I'm now trying to avoid any further exposures that I can. From what I've been able to learn so far, it appears that silver is not toxic; yes, Hulda Clark tested positive for the presence of silver in many of her case studies... the levels she could detect with the Synchrometer are not generally thought to be at all toxic by many researchers. Don't take my word on this - research Colloidal Silver yourself, and form your own conclusions.

Thanks for your comments; I'll try to share what I've been able to learn... there's still much more to be learned!!! Bruce K. Stenulson

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Subject: 555 timer chips

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998

>" Anyone know the difference in 555 timer as compared to the CMOS 555 timer chip?"

The CMOS 555 would be pretty much the same as the standard TTL-type 555. The CMOS device will require much less current from the battery to operate, but is static sensitive (be careful when touching it or wiring it). The TTL type 555 is almost impervious to handling damage, static wise (still, be careful..). Here's a note I sent out awhile back ...

>" Isn't this one not recommended? Or it it another RS 555 timer that I have been told to shy away from? After reading above, if RS is selling a TTL and not a CMOS timer, couldn't I just put more power through the Zapper (i.e. more than 9V, based on equipment capabilities) to get the same effects?

For purposes of building the Clark Zapper, operating in the 20 KHz to 40KHz, the NE555P is the original design , created originally by Signetics, and may draw a bit more current than the 1455 CMOS low power version. We're talking 10mA draw while the output is high, and 1mA draw while the output is low, beyond the load on the output (limited to 4.5mA in the Clark design.)This is seen as an average internal current consumption of 5.5ma for the NE555P; not exactly real high.

I don't have the current consumption figures for the CMOS version readily at hand, but it's probably about [less than 1mA]; not a really significant savings in the cost of batteries...

The CMOS Version is quite static sensitive, as are all CMOS devices. (Static electricity will even damage 555 chips if you're not careful; I evolved to doing all my work on a grounded work surface, using a grounding wrist strap and a three wire, grounded tip soldering iron; my chip mortality went way down. Keep these factors in mind the next time you hear of someone "getting a bad chip" from "XXX" ; their work-space / handling techniques may have contributed to the "Bad Chips" syndrome.)

ADVANTAGE of the NE555P : Much higher current output capability; rated for up to 200mA.

The voltage of the output waveform of both chips is essentially the full supply voltage - no difference there.

For much higher frequency applications, the CMOS 1455 [does] have an advantage; it's waveform rise time is rated at 50nS, faster than the NE555. For the Clark Zapper, I'm not sure this is significant.

Most Electronics supply companies source the 555; they are performing fine.

(The NE555P chips I have worked with for many years are produced by Texas instruments ; they have done fine.) [I still have over 80 on hand.]

Hope this info helps. BKS

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I've got some suggestions to part of your questions, and some additional

info for all of you to consider:

Thomas Prucha wrote: [ to Linda Townsend]

Linda,

Did you find that one person's polarity need was different than another's? Was there a pattern such as right handers needed + on their right (I'm sure that would be way too simple). Are there ways we can find out what polarity is best without learning the hard way? I have been reluctant to use my Zapper until I find out the answer to this question and some other questions.

In your opinion would a true AC waveform be better? It might be interesting to see how a good signal generator would effect the bioenergy fields, first adjusted with a DC offset like the Zapper

(checking both polarities) and then with a true AC waveform of the same amplitude and frequency. The bioenergy fields might just be the medium we needed in order to learn why the Zapper effects are so profound for so many.

I also saw the Zapper waveform change on the scope as a stronger grip on the electrodes was made. Lower resistive contact (tighter or wetter grip) caused one the edges of the square wave "round off" and the overall amplitude to drop. Can you offer any opinion about what the tighter

grip did to bioenergy? Thanks in advance for your help.

[BKS reply]

The 1K resistor from the IC output on pin 3 of the IC limits the current output of a classic Clark Zapper, powered by a 9 volt battery, to an average of 4.5mA, read on a digital multi-meter; ( the actual amplitude is roughly twice that, with about a 50% duty cycle, resulting in this reading). With a "Tight grip" as you describe, the output is described by Hulda Clark as "Charging the body, which acts like a capacitor" to roughly quote what I remember from the book.

When a 100 ohm resistor was substituted for the 1K (in a breadboarded experimental/ prototyping session I conducted,) the "rounding" of the waveform was not evident; in fact, the square wave signal was seen to display a spike at the leading edge, which has been credited with helping to generate the harmonics that are said to be generated by the original Clark Zapper circuit design.

I built TWO output jacks into my zapper, one with the max 4.5mA at 9V output, the second (with the 100 ohm resistor in place of the 1K) having a max current output capability of about 45mA, again an averaged reading across a digital multi-meter.

Keep in mind that the CMOS 7555 / 1455 IC only has a max current rating at the output at pin 3 of 100mA; the LM555 / NE555 is rated for 200mA. I've been working with the NE555 IC's, sourced by Texas Instruments.

Hope these technical observations help! I'm also interested in Linda's response to your other questions.

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ZAPPER / C.S. Success Story [BKS]

A friend recently reported using one of my Zappers that I had loaned him, used about once a day (3 applications as recommended by Hulda Clark), and being free of a chronic sinus infection for the first time in years... it had been particularly bad for the last month+, and not responding to antibiotics. He also went on to relate that he had in some zapping sessions, placed the .999 fine silver outboard contact (the positively charged one) under his tongue, wanting to get the effect closer to his frontal sinuses... I related to him that H2O2, hydrogen peroxide, is generated in the mouth when he does this, which has been said to possibly create a slight ozidizing effect on any amalgam fillings. What he was inadvertently doing was generating colloidal silver in his mouth in the process, which may well have been another contributing factor in his being free of the condition now.

For those of you wondering, " I thought the Colloidal silver generators ran on 27 to 30 volts" I'd like to contribute this; Silver will donate positively charged silver ions ("colloidal silver") with as little as

1.5 volts DC potential applied in a conductive environment (such as a slightly acid or basic solution, or in the above case, the saliva in someone's mouth.) In Silver Electroplating, an applied voltage of much above 2 volts will result in a coarse, grainy plating job, rather than a smooth surface... With the pulsed 9 volt DC from the higher current output on my Zapper design, I generate a beautiful golden yellow colloidal silver, starting with pure distilled water. With 9 volts instead of 27 volts, the initial current is 1/3, and the process is more "leisurely", but why rush a quality result anyway? Higher applied voltages at too high a current flow (translater as FAST") can result in coarser silver particle production, not as beneficial...

When I get my PPM meter, I'll be able to post further results data on this process. I'm getting closer to posting the results of my research on the web; I'll post to both the Rife list and the Silver list when I

do. BKS

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Subject: Zapper output through body verified

Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson"

A list member wrote:

" Question to anyone. I also built the Clark Zapper.....with the 555 timer IC. Nowhere does it say what one should feel while using it. I know it is working because I can see the pulses....(20K+?) on my 'scope. Voltage seems up to specs. Any comments? Have a Bio-Electrifier that puts a very

discernable current from anode to wrist. Only a slight tingle with the Zapper. Would appreciate any comments."

[BKS reply]

Of the several 9 volt powered "ZAPPERS" I've built, everyone who works with them, myself included, feels a "Vibrating" sensation - I'd describe it as being most noticeable in the backs of my hands & into the wrists. I also have a second output, with a lower value resistor (100 ohm in place

of the 1K resistor) from pin 3 on the 555 to the external (positively charged) hand piece. My wife has commented that this slightly higher level output "feels sharper"; I've observed a spike on the leading edge of the square wave on this output that is not observed on the regular output. My wife prefers to use the lower level output...

After reading vague musings / theories about "skin / surface effects" at [vague unspecified "higher" frequencies], without really finding any definitive info, I tried a test:

Fresh 9 volt rechargeable battery, 7 cell nicad = 9.3 volts, when first on:

Zapper output Frequency : 25KHz, at warm room temperature, 72 degrees F

With the grounded hand piece on my left hand, and the positively charged one in my right, and my digital multi-meter's ground lead hooked to ground in the circuit, I can measure about 275uA (micro-amps) current at the tip of my tongue with the other meter lead...

When I let go of the grounded hand piece with my left hand, I could then read over 560uA at the tip of my tongue. (This is through the 1K resistor on the output, the origional Clark Zapper circuit.)

When I switch to the higher current output, (through the 100 ohm resistor) I measure a peak of 760uA at the tip of my toungue. Voltage, as read averaged by the meter on a 53% duty cycle: 4.04V versus 4.46V measuring the circuitry output directly.

This shows me to my satisfaction at least that the whole body "resonates" to the output of this "ZAPPER LTS+" model; Hulda Clark spoke of the effect as being similar to "charging a capacitor, with your whole body being that capacitor.

The "LTS+" refers to the "Low Tech Sweep" function I posted a bit of info on about a week ago; a gradual sweep to up to 15KHz above the starting frequency in about 90 seconds can be produced by placing my thumb against a NTC Thermistor mounted on the outside of the main hand piece (which also holds the circuitry and battery.) Taking the thumb back off allows the frequency to sweep back down close to the starting frequency over the next two minutes.

I'm still another week away from posting the complete details of this enhanced Zapper LTS+ design on the web; in includes two current limited output jacks, an external ground jack, a green "output active" LED and a red "replace battery" LED (which comes on at about 7.15V), an external 10 AA cell/ 15 volt battery pack (for experimental higher voltage use, and for use with the complete Colloidal Silver Generating accessory kit which is included. It's tested & proven: Pulsed DC at 12 to 15 volts makes fine colloidal silver, the transparent golden yellow, in pure distilled water.) BKS

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..."Is it possible that this zapper unit does a sort of 'broad spectrum' job of what the rife units do in separate frequencies?

BKS REPLY:

This seems to be what Hulda Clark was saying in "The Cure For All Diseases"; that "ANY POSITIVELY OFFSET FREQUENCY KILLS ALL BACTERIA, VIRUSES, AND PARASITES SIMULTANEOUSLY, GIVEN SUFFICIENT VOLTAGE (5 TO 10 VOLTS), duration (seven minutes), and frequency (anything from 10 Hz to 500.000 Hz)". She goes on to relate, later in the book, about using pulsed DC set on a specific frequency to kill one parasite, which killed 3 others at the same time. Another section relates of testing positive for a certain pathogen's resonant frequency, applying that resonant frequency, and subsequently no longer being able to detect that resonance in the body - translated as 'pathogen disabled'.

A Pulsed DC Square wave, with a sharp rise on the leading edge of the waveform is recommended; this waveform is said by others to generate more of the desirable harmonics, especially when the "spike" at the leading edge is generated (which is more a function of the current limiting in the specific circuit design), which may contribute to the beneficial effects. Adverse comments about possible negative effects of certain lower frequencies, such as Linda Townsend reporting "depressed

bio-energy levels" with a device operating around 2500Hz, etc., leave me thinking that in fact Hulda Clark's recommended operating range of between 20,000Hz and 40,000Hz is a good start.

Brian McInturff's comment on his website of having "one zapper (of several he had built) that worked well against colds, and [another] that did not..." led me to begin speculating that it is still posible to have a zapper that is on just the wrong frequency for a certain desired effect. This led into designing the "Low Tech Sweep" described previously... the theory being that, as the primary frequency sweeps

higher & lower, the associated generated harmonics also are sweeping a broader part of the "bio-resonance" spectrum. This may result in a more effective non-frequency specific zapper. All comments and feedback on this concept are welcomed.

> "... I do not have any serious illnesses, and i would like a device that will perhaps use frequencies that prevent such illnesses and/or stop them from flourishing in the formative stage of development. and perhaps an effect of discouraging parasites and purifying blood. i expect eventually to get a bare/rife unit, but i see there is a lt of work involved as far as determining frequencies of dog illnesses, etc. in the meantime i can test and use less expensive units for the benefits and the general information. i may do a book on healing units.

BKS: The full-blown Rife radiant units are pushing a lot of RF power to induce the lower modulated frequency into anything/ anyone that happens to be within a certain range... let's just hope that the FCC doesn't crack down, requiring Type Certification of each individual device, or worse...

For now I'm instead working (for my own research purposes for now) on a precision pulsed frequency generator device, metered for indicating the variable voltage and current outputs, with a 7 digit

frequency counter built in- a precision "Rife Pad Device" if you will. We already know from Robert Beck's work, as well as others, that a skin contact induced low voltage, low current has been shown to be very effective, as in his "Blood Purifier". We have frequency lists to work from; let's see how we can apply all of this towards effective devices that are still within a reasonable cost.

Bruce K. Stenulson

Applied Technology

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:34:49 -0800

From: weissleader lizardha@sprynet.com

To: stenulson@gmail.com

I know the brain tuner used as directed didn't affect my whole body, it was quite a surprise to find what else it could do after ten years of use only on my brain. i can not build things like this myself, and am delighted to have others offer them for sale. if you have zappers available for under $100, I

want one now!

I like the idea of multiple or ranging frequencies that are more likely to treat and prevent a variety of things, since the idea is to be healthy enough not to get the stuff in the first place. my one goal is

to hopefully eliminate something that is interfering with alertness so I can get along without medication to stay awake. i have no idea if any of this will do that, but if not, that will be one more thing i know for sure. And should I or someone I know develop some serious condition will have a working knowledge of a number of devices.

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Patricia Weissleader at Lizardhaven Ranch

"Where the Critter Meets the Glitter"

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

D.F. wrote:

In a message dated 98-03-06 23:40:06 EST, you write:

...(:BKS): With the grounded hand piece on my left hand, and the positively charged one in my right, and my digital multi-meter's ground lead hooked to ground in the circuit, I can measure about 275uA (micro-amps) current at the tip of my tongue with the other meter lead.......

......This shows me to my satisfaction at least that the whole body "resonates" to the output of this ZAPPER ........

D.F.: This reading does not necessarily prove this.... it is likely that your hooking up the meter provided a path for the electricity being produced to travel from the zapper up through your tongue to ground (through the meter) thereby giving you a reading.... something that would *only* happen if the meter was connected. As far as I can tell, this proves very little...

BKS Reply:

D, this may need further clarification;

Let's try explaining this once more to clarify this; the meter has it's black lead, the negative lead, connected to the ground in the zapper circuitry (plugged into the ground jack on the end cap). If you touch the meter's red lead to the external hand piece, you could read the output waveform as frequency (if your meter reads this), as the averaged voltage reading of a 53% duty cycle square wave,(about half of the battery's measured voltage) or you could measure the short circuit current potential at the external hand piece (about 4.4mA max through the 1K ohm resistor in the original Clark circuit.)

If you touch the meter to the main housing / grounded hand piece, you'll read nothing; it's grounded to the ground on the main circuitry.

If I touch the meter to any part of my body (such as my tongue), and I get a reading, where can that waveform that I'm detecting be coming from, if not from the right hand piece I'm gripping? (if I let go of that hand piece, no reading is seen; if I grip it again, it's back...)

This is a simple CIRCUIT, electrons flowing in it, and readings at given points within that circuit measured with reference to ground (which happens to be the grounded housing in my left hand, as used. You could draw a circuit diagram of it, if it helps clarify it ... Positive output to right hand piece, in through the body (to simplify, think of it as a large/long resistor, and the tip of my tongue as a "center tap" on that resistor) and out through my left hand to the grounded hand piece. (Yes, electrons actually move from negative to positive; I'm illustrating following the positive voltage /current potential on it's path through the circuit back to ground in this illustration.)

The simple conclusion is that you can't measure VOLTAGE and CURRENT at a point in a circuit unless it's really there. I hope this clears up any confusion. Comments are always welcome! BKS

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:51:51 EST

From: D.F.

In a message dated 98-03-07 22:18:21 EST, you write:

(BKS:) "If I touch the meter to any part of my body (such as my tongue), and I get a reading, where can that waveform that I'm detecting be coming from, if not from the right hand piece I'm gripping? (if I let go of that hand piece, no reading is seen; if I grip it again, it's back...)"

D.F.: Lets forget the waveform for the moment as it just muddies the water. It is quite true that the current flow that you are detecting is indeed from the right hand piece. I am not disputing that particular assertion.......

The body does not behave exactly like a resistor, however, in a simplified model, electric current usually takes the path of least resistance. I would suggest that this fact implies that the vast majority of the electric current (of what ever waveform you wish) that is traveling between the hand pieces of

your zapper is traveling along a fairly narrow band in your chest (between your arms which are holding the electrodes). (Not a theory held by others: BKS)

I would further suggest that the amount of current flowing through the rest of your body diminishes significantly as one moves away from this "shortest distance" hypothetical line. This diminishing effect would be the most evident at the extremes; the top of your head and at the bottom of your feet

for instance.

Further, it is my understanding that most meters, no matter how expensive have some "leakage" current flow (or whatever it is called) when in a circuit...... So as soon as you connect one lead to ground, and the other to your tongue, you create a circuit path (through the "leakage" of the meters internal circuitry) that provides a path of somewhat less resistance to the current flowing from

one hand piece to the next. This causes some of the current that normally would not flow up to your head because of the "shortest distance" rule, to indeed begin to flow there. (Not true...BKS)

This artificially enhanced current flow, therefore, gives you a false indication of the amount of current flowing in the area of the body to which you have the meter attached which has little or no current flow in actuality.

If you could find a meter with *infinite* internal input impedance (most quality meters have about 10m ohm input impedance), I would have no objection. I am not aware of the existence of such a meter.

Comments from the tech. types are most welcome here. DF

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

DF, thanks for your thoughts on this subject, some of your points are well taken, but I'm seeing other effects (on the oscilloscope, which has a faifly high impedance probe, that lead me to think that your "path of least resistance" approach doesn't take into account other things that are visibly happening...

.."DF: Lets forget the waveform for the moment as it just muddies the water. "

BKS: I've got to take issue with this assumption first; if we were talking about an applied DC voltage, you might get away with this approach, but the effect of pulsing a resonant frequency through the body is doing things that can not be modeled resistively, as the body actually acts much more like a capacitor than a resistor. The pulsed DC, then, (at let's say, 9 volts amplitude, 25KHZ ) is in fact charging this large capacitor I have for a body to a certain measurable voltage level (Hulda Clark's explanation originally, and very visible on the oscilloscope, both at 25KHz, and at 425KHz in recent research.)

(and I must apologize for over-simplifying and using the analogy of a resistor in the first response; your question seemed to be phrased more simply at that point, and I type kinda slow....)

Does any radial capacitor only charge at the bottom, close to where the leads enter and leave the case? Or does the whole capacitor resonate with an applied pulsed signal, charged to a certain voltage level ?.....

DF: "It is quite true that the current flow that you are detecting is indeed from the

right hand piece. I am not disputing that particular assertion....... The body does not behave exactly like a resistor, however, in a simplified model, electric current usually takes the path of least resistance. I would suggest that this fact implies that the vast majority of the electric current (of what ever waveform you wish) that is traveling between the hand pieces of your zapper is traveling along a fairly narrow band in your chest (between your arms which are holding the electrodes)...."

BKS: The net current leaving the body through the left hand in this case is your total circuit measured current, no doubt, but is possibly more like the leakage through a leaky capacitor; the whole body is still , with each positive going pulse, being "charged" to a certain voltage level, (easily measurable or observable on an oscilloscope) and allowed to discharge on the zero volt portion of the square wave signal. This charging and discharging sets up a resonance in the body at the applied frequency, throughout the entire body, that has nothing to do with paths of least resistance.

DF: ..."I would further suggest that the amount of current flowing through the rest of your body diminishes significantly as one moves away from this "shortest distance" hypothetical line. This diminishing effect would be the most evident at the extremes; the top of your head and at the bottom of your feet for instance."

BKS: If we were simply dealing with conductive paths this would be true, but in fact the human body is already a bio-resonant entity; when we grab onto an energized zapper, we are superimposing an outside resonance on it, which is inducing a resonance within the body; Hulda Clark wrote that the body has natural resonances which she detected / measured starting at about 1.5MHz, up to about 9.9MHz.

The amplitude of the resonance set up in the body is directly dependant upon the voltage of the applied "zapper" or rife pad device, etc... a low applied voltage will set up a low amplitude resonance, and a higher applied voltage can produce a greater amplitude of the resonance in the body. For a zapper application generating between 20KHz and 40KHz, Hulda Clark recommended an amplitude of between 5 volts and 10 volts to set up a resonance in the body with a sufficient amplitude to have strong enough harmonics up at the higher frequencies where the parasites "live" (resonate) to effectively disrupt them. A lower amplitude signal exactly on 434KHz may kill the common intestinal fluke, but to have a zapper be effective on that critter, we're looking to see a minimum 5 volt

amplitude (square wave / "positively offset) resonance induced into the body, according to her book... and that's what I was looking for and saw at the tip of my tongue, or wherever else I might care to place a test probe... (grin)

Hope this helps fill in a bit of the bigger picture. It's certainly not the "whole story", just a significant part of it, I believe.

Let's put EFFECTIVE "Zappers" into the hands of all of those we care about!

Bruce K. Stenulson, Applied Technology

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998

..."I believe Bruce was using an ammeter which has a near zero ohm impedance. If you hold the ammeter leads in free space the ammeter reads zero (even on the micro-amp scale), unlike a volt meter that normally reads a voltage without being connected to anything. Ammeters generally don't leak, unlike ohm meters which must leak (by design intent). However, I believe you are right that measuring at the tongue would cause an unnatural circuit path but due to the "short circuit" that the

ammeter leads cause. TP

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:33:20 +1100

From: Trevor Wilson rage@hutch.com.au

At 11:51 9/03/98 EST, you wrote:

In a message dated 98-03-07 22:18:21 EST, you write:

(BKS:) If I touch the meter to any part of my body (such as my tongue), and I get a reading, where can that waveform that I'm detecting be coming from, if not from the right hand piece I'm gripping? (if I let go of that hand piece, no reading is seen; if I grip it again, it's back...)

DF: Lets forget the waveform for the moment as it just muddies the water. It is quite true that the current flow that you are detecting is indeed from the right hand piece. I am not disputing that prticular assertion....... The body does not behave exactly like a resistor, however, in a simplified

model, electric current usually takes the path of least resistance. I would suggest that this fact implies that the vast majority of the electric current (of what ever waveform you wish) that is traveling between the hand pieces of your zapper is traveling along a fairly narrow band in your chest (between your arms which are holding the electrodes).

TW: I am of the opinion that most of the current flows along the most conductive paths. These would most probably be: Blood vessels, Muscle tissue, .Major organs; Very little would flow through:

Fat tissue, Skin surface.

DF: "I would further suggest that the amount of current flowing through the rest of your body diminishes significantly as one moves away from this "shortest distance" hypothetical line. This diminishing effect would be the most evident at the extremes; the top of your head and at the bottom of your feet for instance."

TW: I think that is a fair comment. Of course, bearing in mind the most conductive paths outlined above. My thoughts with respect to pad devices and Zappers is that pad placement should be where the most blood is flowing. Others may have other ideas. I would certainly welcome comment re this aspect.

DF:..."Further, it is my understanding that most meters, no matter how expensive, have some "leakage" current flow (or whatever it is called) when in a circuit...... So as soon as you connect one lead to ground, and the other to your tongue, you create a circuit path (through the "leakage" of the meters internal circuitry) that provides a path of somewhat less resistance to the current flowing from

one hand piece to the next. This causes some of the current that normally would not flow up to your head because of the "shortest distance" rule, to indeed begin to flow there.

TW: Such is the problem with ALL measurement systems. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle takes affect. Generally one could assume that if the measuring device has an impedance of at least 100 times the impedance of the subject (the human body) then things should be OK. One could regard the loading of most common meters and oscilloscopes (1MOhm) as being quite insignificant. There are host of difficulties when trying to measure the signal at any point other than the injection point with pad devices. I prefer to measure the voltage at these points or the current flowing into

the subject. The output impedance of the source can seriously affect the quality of the waveform.

DF: "This artificially enhanced current flow, therefore, gives you a false indication of the amount of current flowing in the area of the body to which you have the meter attached which has little or no current flow in actuality."

TW: Quite true. Again the input impedance of the measurement device is the enemy here. Because we need a high I/P Z (input impedance), the device will tend to respond to any signal present in the body. Most of that signal will be 50/60Hz mains frequency.

If you could find a meter with *infinite* internal input impedance (most quality meters have about 10m ohm input impedance), I would have no objection. I am not aware of the existence of such a meter.

Meters (or CRO's) with very high I/P Z are obtainable, but probably not necessary. It is not difficult to simulate one with a conventional meter (or CRO) anyway. Just get a 90MOhm resistor (made up from 9 X 10MOhm resistors in series). Connect in series with your meter and [multiply] your meter reading by 10. ie: Read 1Volt. Actual voltage measured = 10 Volts, etc. Unless very high grade resistors are used (quite hard to get in that value) then accuracy will not be all that good. In fact if the resistors

all have a similar level of inaccuracy (unlikely, but possible) then the measurement could be 20% ~ 30% in error. Probably good to buy 20 or so resistors and select the best ones to make up exactly 90MOhm. When doing this experiment with a CRO, you can forget about frequency linearity.

Cheers, Trevor Wilson

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:07:10 +1100

From: Trevor Wilson rage@hutch.com.au

At 12:09 10/03/98 -0000, you wrote:

GG: ..."Conventional medical wisdom says the conduction process is an organic semiconductor process taking place in the outer sheath of the nerve fibers. That is why low voltages work so well. Refer to Becker's work. He also explains that because there is an organic semiconducting process, there is a Hall effect that produces crossed electromagnetic fields, thus creating the possibility for quadrature resonances, the model I proposed at the Rife conference. Regards, Gary

TW: Perhaps. I would not call that 'conventional wisdom', however. I have yet to see convincing proof either way. I do know from my own experience that muscles can be directly stimulated deep inside my legs when pads are applied on the abdomen. I have not read Becker's work, so I am at a disadvantage in discussing this area. Please point me towards the reference, I would like to read it.

There are a raft of problems doing measurement to prove such an affect. One would need to embed electrodes INSIDE the body at various points to prove the organic semiconductor effect conclusively (or to disprove it). If someone has done this, then I would be interested in seeing the results. It

would be interesting to know the conductivity of the various structures of the body. ie: Blood vessels, nerve sheaths, skin, fat, etc. If you have any figures on this, I would be interested in knowing what they are.

Please understand, I am not suggesting that you are wrong, I am suggesting that, as yet, we (and you) do not have all the answers. Cheers, Trevor Wilson

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Zapper output through body verified]

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998

From: Reid Smith rsmith@intrnet.net

If you want to see something else interesting. If you have a zapper and an O-scope touch the positive lead of the o-scope to your toung and turn on the zapper. You'll see the square wave pattern change. I've recently done this, before reading your post, and I know what you mean; The body affects the o'scope waveform display much like a capacitor would; leading edge is rounded, peak amplitude drops, and the low state voltage level floats above 0 volts... Hulda Clark's analogy of

the body acting like a capacitor being charged by the resonant frequency comes back to mind ...

If you have Rife's tape in one part he is talking about a square wave being as a carrer being modulated. That wave looks just like my the normal body wave.

Using Gary's Zapper I noticed that the body wave modulated when touching the grips. Lines looked a little fuzzy.

Using the EMEM2 I noticed that the body wave modulated quite a bit when touching the grips. Major difference between the lines. The modulation might be more like Rifes if the switching amperage was higher than 40 m-amps (40 m-amps is what the PC speaker produces).

Also noticed that his zapper produced a white noise pattern on my TV Channel 6 when it was on and the square wave distorted at times.

BKS: Are you using the BLASTER5 program that was on Keelynet, or another to generate frequencies from the PC? (I have several spare older computers around- do a lot of upgrades, repairs, custom systems, and have accumulated quite a few spare parts from XT's on up..) I've been meaning

to look into this further, but the concept of a handheld/ portable, rechargeable powered generator in various levels of precision and instrumentation has absorbed my attention recently...

RS: I'm using a pascal program that I wrote to generate the frequencies. It works real good from 20hz on but a person would have to calibrate anything below 20hz. With Basic you can only get down to around 30 hz. Right now I change the frequencies and recompile the program. Later when I get to

it I'll finish it so anyone can add-remove frequencies and release it. I also build-repair-upgrade PC's when I'm able. I'm using an old 486 that I had laying around. Take Care, Reid

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..." I am a healthy 70 y/o with no problems since I 'cured' a 50+ y/o sinus problem

with a Clark Zapper. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

BKS: I found this comment on curing a long standing sinus problem very interesting also, as a friend (to whom I had loaned one of my zappers) also recently reported relief from a sinus infection which had not responded to antibiotics for several weeks; he's now enjoying being free of the morning sinus pressure that he's lived with for many years, usually experiencing major sinus infections about 3 times per year. He doesn't intend to give back my zapper! (An inadvertent colloidal silver application was also used by him when he decided to try placing the fine silver electrode (the external, positively charged one which will produce positively charged metallic ions) under his tongue to get the

application "closer to the problem area"; I expect the combination of the two, zapper and silver, worked together to do the job... BKS

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Subject: Re: MCS

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

B M wrote: ..." Thank you everyone for your input on my environmental illness issues. I have one more question. H. Clark has stated that the sheep liver fluke is responsible for chemical sensitivities, is there a frequency that kills this organism. B M

BKS: Bill, I've went back through "The Cure For All Diseases", and I didn't find a specific listing there either; the Clark frequency would most likely be in the 400KHz to 500KHz range; the common intestinal fluke is listed at 434KHz.

Of more interest, however, may be the information on page 505:

"If your frequency generator has a POSITIVE OFFSET capability, you can use it like a zapper, and a single session will kill all pathogens, provided it is 100% offset and can give at least 5 volts at this

setting. When using this technique, the generator can be set to any frequency from 2KHz to 800KHZ, and you should go for 7 minutes. [three times with 20 minute breaks between : BKS] But even a small percentage of negative voltage [at the positively charged hand piece with respect to

the grounded handpiece: BKS] will ruin the effect and DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD!...."

( This seems to be saying, "ZAP IT, whatever the frequency"...)

Maybe someone else has a specific RIFE frequency; check Brian McInturff's website at :

http://www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt.htm

and look for the Rife frequency list there (it's a long compilation from many sources.)

I also have MCS problems and have been using the Zapper. I did no before / after blood or body fluid studies, just seemed like a good idea to get zapping promptly! My initial session produced a bodily system "response" about 1 hour after my first zapper session - lower digestive system went "FLUSH" - my impression is that something was affected! My "ZAPPER LTS+" units put out a Pulsed DC square wave, the Positive Offset referred to by Hulda Clark, at 9 volts, with the internal battery's voltage, sweeping about 10KHz of the recommended 20KHz to 40KHz frequency range if desired with the simple application of your warm thumb on an externally mounted THERMISTOR...

Here's wishing you good results in becoming less sensitive; my impression is that the zapping is only one of several things I've used that helped me greatly; minimizing the environmental factors and

improving indoor air quality must also be pursued. Identify your "sensitizers" as well as the "Triggers" as referred to by Dr Gary Null in his book "No More Allergies" available from Barnes Noble.

[ NOTE: what I missed pointing out is that Hulda Clark did not specifically say that the Sheep Liver Fluke was RESPONSIBLE for MCS - she said that everyone she had seen with MCS tested positive for the Sheep Liver Fluke; the distinction may be significant. BKS

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Subject: Re: MCS: Sheep liver Fluke Frequency.

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

M. wrote:

Hi Bruce,

Does not H. Clark mean Hz rather than Khz? I didn't think an NE555 could do 500 Khz. Am I mistaken?

BKS: Good question. Hulda Clark was not using a zapper to generate the specific frequencies

in the upper ranges, bu rather a much more elaborate piece of equipment. She commented on not being able to get certain research results until she finally obtained a stable frequency generator (and counter) that would run to 10 megahertz. All of her listed frequencies are generally from just below 100KHz for alime mold, to around 434KHz for the intestinal fluke (between 350KHz and 480KHz for most protozoa, parasites, and worms), to between 640KHz and 880KHz for mites. (see the diagram on page 18 of "The Cure For All Diseases" first, then check the tables in the back of the book, starting on page 562.

In fact, the sheep liver fluke and all it's relatives (as well as giardia) all "resonate" at between 420KHZ and 430KHz, according to the list on page 567.

The 555 timer is generally useable in it's astable mode up to about 150KHz without special precautions. (I just played with one where the waveform starts getting unstable above 175KHz with long leads in a breadboard - shorter leads would help as frequencies climb.)

The Harris Semiconductor Datasheet for the ICM7555 (CMOS version) is rated for high speed operation to 1MHz; I haven't yet prototyped this chip in the 400KHz to 450KHz range, as I'm using other devices for that purpose. (I'm working on another design, a frequency generator running

stably to above 1MHz with adjustable symmetry / duty cycle, as well as other features; required instrumentation is the cost booster on this type of design.) BKS

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Subject: Re: MCS: Sheep liver Fluke Frequency.

Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

G G wrote: ..." I think there is little doubt Clark means KHz. She also means sine waves. None of this is appropriate for a Zapper. Regards, GG "

BKS: This relates back to what Hulda Clark relates as the birth of the Zapper; on page 14 in her book, she relates having "a hand held, battery powered, accurate frequency generator built by her son, which put out a 434KHz pulsed DC square wave signal. She goes on to relate, "When I

tested it on one of my own bacteria, however, THREE OTHERS AT MUCH DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES DIED ALSO! This had never happened before [when using the sine wave output of her other bench frequency generator: BKS.] When I tested it on others, even though they had dozens of pathogens,all were killed."

If you missed this section, it's time to go back and check it again, as this is the underlying key to Hulda Clark's Zapper design and the operating characteristics which are necessary to make it so effective according to her.:

OUTPUT: Pulsed DC Square wave (Positively offset frequency")

SUFFICIENT VOLTAGE: 5 to 10 volts

AND FREQUENCY: (anything from 10Hz to 500KHz)

Robert Beck used 27 volts in the original blood purifier design, with the current adjusted up "as high as is comfortable"; induced current drive capability may be the issue, along with an adequate ability to

cause the body to "resonate" at a beneficial resonant frequency. I can definitely measure effects within the body with a 9 volt powered Zapper, as Hulda recommends, and I also see the current flowing through the body drop as the voltage available from the 9 volt battery drops. It's very graphically observable on an oscilloscope with a zapper running at between 20KHz and 40KHz, as is recommended elsewhere in Clark's writings. BKS

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Subject: Re: MCS

Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

GG wrote: ..." Be careful, part of what you are quoting is out of context."

BKS: Maybe we all need to re-read her book carefully, even you, G...

GG "First, Clark is referring to a sine wave frequency, not a square wave frequency that high."

If you refer to page 14 of her book , you will see that you may well be mistaken.

GG: "Second, she is applying a very specific treatment regime, not a general treatment like the Zapper is used for."

GG: "Third, she is treating intestinal fluke, deep inside the body. Generally we absolutely don't want to use Zappers that way."

BKS: Where do you come up with such a statement? Of coarse I want to kill parasites deep within the body; if an effective zapper can do that, let me at it!

GG: " You will end up killing off a lot of your necessary intestinal bacteria and parasites. The result

will be several months worth of diahrea."

BKS: On what do you base this statement? This has not been my experience, or that of my friends and associates, working with true "Clark Zapper" output devices; I experienced one brief episode of diahria one hour after my first zapper session, which I took to be an indication that it had done something, and no further upset or recurrence since. Does your zapper give you "months of diahrea? I also have not personally experienced any feelings of "depressed energy levels" or any type of

detox reactions, although I was anticipating the possibility.

GG: "Lastly, you fail to explain what positive offset means. Positive with respect to what and why."

BKS: "Positive Offset" is Hulda Clark's term for a waveform that changes states from 0 volts to a positive voltage, then returns to zero volts before starting the next cycle: in other words, a classic square wave in reference to ground.

GG: ..."The only possible explanation in Clarks writings is that you will screw-up her synchrometer. That makes sense, but why does the intestinal fluke care?"

BKS: I don't think that this has anything to do with the fluke "caring". Her book clearly states that while a very specifically generated sine wave frequency was effective on a specific stage of a specific parasite (at the 10 volts amplitude, I believe), that a Pulsed DC waveform was very effective in disrupting a wide range of pathogens which resonate on a wide variety of frequencies... but don't take my word for it, re-read her book for a better understanding. (You may have missed those sections

the first time through...)

GG: " Further, Clark doesn't tell you which hand to put the positive paddle in and which, the ground reference. Reason: it doesn't matter. Begs the question, positive with respect to what?"

I can't personally report any difference that I can sense from my experience with the Zapper I built, which generates the classic CLARK ZAPPER pulsed DC square wave output, of about 53% duty cycle,, 9 volts max amplitude. I'm left handed, and naturally grasp the main control housing/ hand piece, the grounded one, in my left hand. A friend who is free from a long standing chronic sinus infection for the first time in years after borrowing one of my zappers, is right handed, and naturally

uses the grounded hand piece in his right hand; he reports good results with no noticed adverse effects.

Some may be more sensitive to hand piece orientation, especially at certain frequencies, and find it generally less beneficial if not disruptive... more input on this from users seems to be called for.

I found the tone of your posting rather contentious; maybe it's just the way it hit me. Check the quoted references from Hulda Clark's book again, if you would be so kind, and see what's there in print. BKS

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From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

Thanks much for the in depth response and clarifications . I'll print file it for future reference. The following two bits may need further clarification, however:

<snip> GG wrote: "It is pretty well known that operating a Zapper at lower frequencies, in the range of 2000 Hz will result in deeper penetration, particularly the middle of the body"...." But my findings seem to indicate that most of the current, particularly the lower frequency portions are flowing

around the body on the skin. The high frequency components are penetrating."

BKS: So which is it?

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Subject: Higher Frequency Operation of CMOS ICM7555 timer

Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

Earlier today, I sent you the following info:

"The Harris Semiconductor Datasheet for the ICM7555 (CMOS version) is rated for high speed operation to 1MHz; I haven't yet prototyped this chip in the 400KHz to 450KHz range, as I'm using other devices for that purpose. (I'm working on another design, a frequency generator running

stably to above 1MHz with adjustable symetry / duty cycle, as well as other features; required instrumentation is the cost booster on this type of design."

The subject stimulated my curiosity, so I spent some time bread-boarding the Harris ICL7555.

RESULTS: This chip will definitely run stably at 1.25MHz, well beyond any application of the Clark or Rife Frequencies.

A timing capacitor of 100pF and a timing resistor of around 7.7K results in a output of right around 430KHz; this would be dependant on the exact values of the specific components used. Frequency stability is dependant on the temperature stability of all components used, as well as power supply stability; jumping the supply voltage from 9 volts to 15 volts results in a rise of about 10KHz, all else being the same.

So yes, a "zapper" could be built in that frequency range, as Hulda Clark reports having had done on page 14 of her book. Her subsequent development of the CLARK ZAPPER, however, made this unnecessary, as the lower (20KHz to 40KHZ) zapper is said to be able to do the same job.

I'll continue investigating the more precise Clark Frequency generating devices, although I'm working with what appear to be far more stable IC's than the 7555. If I have more results, I'll post them to the list. BKS

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Subject: Re: New Zapper anodes

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:13:22 -0700

From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" stenulson@gmail.com

LR wrote: Bruce, Thanks for all your good input !!! I print yours out immediately and am following your progress closely. Had an idea for Zapper cum Syncrometer Hand holds. Hulda was a little concerned about the "Copper" effect. Having worked at one time in a musical instrument repair shop.... the bulb over my head went "wink wink" How about Silver plating the copper pipe. Leave it

matte or burnish as desired. (only prob. would be oxidation...but not toxic) (also no need for wet paper wrap....direct contact ok) Next alternate....local auto parts chroming tank. Pick up brass Chromed tubing....saw to length. Any reason it couldn't be steel tubing? How about plumbing supply....surely there are pieces of chromed brass pipe of a reasonable size. Please continue to contribute to the LIST.

BKS Reply: Thanks for your Email. I'm been using a chromed brass tube for the main hand piece / control housing, the grounded one; no possibility of metal toxicity, since only electrons move from that hand piece- the positively charged metallic ions, if any, are generated at the positively charged hand piece.

I've worked with .999 fine silver for the second hand piece, and have electroplated the 3/4" copper tubing for one pair of hand pieces, but the silver is VERY electrochemically active, and a bare handed grip definitely seems to "leave it's marks" on the silver plating, so the life expectancy is short without going to a much heavier electroplate.

I'm now inclined to recommend working with a chemically inert stainless steel alloy, and have been fashioning hand pieces from that material lately. Brian McInturff's suggestion of testing the SS alloy with a strong magnet reminded me of info from the past; to the effect that if it doesn't respond to a magnet, it is very chemically inert, and will not part with any of it's constituent metallic ions very easily at all within the parameters of our application.

I'm more inclined to take my Colloidal Silver orally, although Becker's book, "The Body Electric" will generate new ideas and applications for Silver contacts. BKS

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Subject: Re: Zappers!!! by GG:

..."All evidence that I have assimilated indicated to me that devices that introduce electromagnetic energy at sub kT energy levels are operating on the body in much the same way. This effect is what I have called the 'Rife effect'. Devices in this category include Rife plasma technology, both RF and pulsed DC methods, low voltage Zappers, virtually all pad devices that operate at low voltages, Photon Sound, and numerous others. The other category are the devices that operate above kT energy levels. These include the Beck Blood Purifier, Thumpers, TENS units and electrocution. There is sound technical basis for separating these two categories, but no technical basis for separating Zappers from pad devices from Rife plasma RF devices from Rife plasma pulsed DC and so on.

I realize that individuals on the list have substantial effort invested in each of these technologies within the sub kT category and tend to want to think that the effect that their device has on a body is unique. This is very likely not so, and forms no basis for inclusion of some on any particular list and not others. I couldn't do that. Its either all sub kT devices or none. This may be politically contentious, but it is scientifically sound. At least sound based on all we know today. Regards, G G

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